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Quote from achilles28:

According to NPR, 30% of the population in 1920 were farmers and 60% lived rural.

Today, less than 2% of the population farms and less than 20% live rural.

How much food does that 2% produce today compared to the 30% who farmed in '20? More importantly, how much of that food does the U.S. export today compared to back then?

Find that out, connect the dots and you'll realize that the U.S. has the ultimate hole card left to play.

Contemporary society is far less equipped to survive a food crisis, then our predecessors.

IMHO, we much better equipped today.

Under the right circumstances it would become politically acceptable to nationalize the food industry in order to ensure that the population is adequately nourished.
 
Quote from jprad:

How much food does that 2% produce today compared to the 30% who farmed in '20? More importantly, how much of that food does the U.S. export today compared to back then?

Find that out, connect the dots and you'll realize that the U.S. has the ultimate hole card left to play.



IMHO, we much better equipped today.

Under the right circumstances it would become politically acceptable to nationalize the food industry in order to ensure that the population is adequately nourished.

about the only thing that achilles gets right when he comes into EliteTrader, is his password, everything else is bizarre, unfounded and highly irregular.
 
Quote from achilles28:

Complete speculation?

Perhaps it appears that way to the brainwashed idiot.

There's a reason why the President has warned of an impending WMD attack on US soil for the past 8 years.

And there's also a reason why the Southern Border was never closed, in spite of the Police State control grid going up around us.

Suggesting the 12 Million Mexicans who have no internet, tv or the literacy skills needed to read a newspaper would somehow be abreast of current events "rich" Americans (like you) can't even grasp, is laughable.

Yes, the people who live in piles of their own shit are very savvy when it comes to "international affairs".

If you want to stay in the US, go for it. America will be the next Brazil or Argentina. Except with bio-nuke attacks, military on the streets, Martial Law, food riots, and a high-tech surveillance grid tracking and tracing everything you do.

During the Great Depression, the US was far more agrarian. Perhaps 20% were self-sufficient on family-farms. Nowadays, America is probably 5% self-sufficient. Hardly any small farms.

You want to see social breakdown? Take away food and watch what happens.

You can trash talk these 3rd World Countries all day, but they're mostly agrarian. They can put food in their belly come hell or water. We can't. Its all relative. America will breakdown harder than a Brazil or Columbia. And then our Military will crack down harder than theirs ever could!

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Quote from jprad:

How much food does that 2% produce today compared to the 30% who farmed in '20? More importantly, how much of that food does the U.S. export today compared to back then?

Find that out, connect the dots and you'll realize that the U.S. has the ultimate hole card left to play.



IMHO, we much better equipped today.

Under the right circumstances it would become politically acceptable to nationalize the food industry in order to ensure that the population is adequately nourished.

LOLOLOL!!

Tell me something Corky, what difference do all the exports in the world make if Americans don't have enough money to buy it?

There was more than ample productive capacity during the Depression. Yet people starved. Strange how reality continually flies in the face of every half-baked theory you defend as "likely". Shit in one hand and hope in the other....

Perhaps you'd prefer to rely on FEMA to bail your starving ass when the local grocer sells out in 5 hours?

After all, the fantastic job they ran in New Orleans must instill confidence in you Big Government types!

Come on, FEMA!! :D
 
Quote from TraderZones:

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Must be tough when your "genius" is hidden by incoherent garbles and 3rd World English! :D

Welcome to America! The both of you!
 
Quote from achilles28:

If things go to shit, you don't want to be holding paper, promises of paper, or paper receipts of anything.

You want to be holding physical gold and silver coin in small denominations to facilitate trade.

Do you have suggestions as to where would be a good place to acquire physical gold?
 
if you are going so far as to buy physical gold, is anyone else going as far as to buy it locally and anonymously in case the US makes it illegal to own precious metals- just like in the past?
 
Quote from achilles28:

Tell me something Corky, what difference do all the exports in the world make if Americans don't have enough money to buy it?

Sorry. I assumed you had the intellectual capacity to comprehend what the food produced by a nationalized food industry would "cost" to it's citizens...

There was more than ample productive capacity during the Depression. Yet people starved.

Unfortunately, history shows that large numbers of farms during the Depression went bankrupt.

The reason? Currency deflation. The value of their exports dropped by 80% while the volume only dropped in half.
 
Quote from dumb_mother:

...the US makes it illegal to own precious metals- just like in the past?

Precious metals? No, only gold was confiscated because of Roosevelt's order.

Silver was still out there. Except for pennies and nickels, all coin was 90% silver until '64 except for Kennedy half dollars, which were reduced to 40% silver until '70.

Little chance/motivation to do the same today since we're no longer on a gold standard.

Gold-bugs refuse to accept the impracticality of having a gold standard today much less admit to the problems that can occur when on one.

The best we can hope for today is sound monetary policy, but you can't have that when private banking is in control of it.
 
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