Physics and Trading? Hmm…….

Quote from dan05:

Hi dafishman,

One question. Why are you so sure Physics = useless . . . . for trading. Because science has nothing to do with trading!!! PEOPLE MOVE THE MARKETS, NOT F-ing PHYSICS or SCIENCE, WTF are you on drugs???????? seriously?

Have you checked the last years who is recruiting the most Physicists from the country ?Please share your knowledge, not that I could give a crap about their jobs but you can enlighten me

If they are use full, why would they get that kind of jobs !
Please explain that in english please, or is that physics talk?

Can you show us some hard numbers to backup your statements? WHy, did I come on here saying I made this or that? NO, so wtf are you talking about, i didnt say I triple my money in 3 months moron...Your sticking up for a moron and you're now acting like one..

I've been trading for the last year and following for the last 2 years a system that is 100% based on Physics theory. And the only thing I can say so far, is that it might not be the Holly Grail, but it is in the neighborhood. And I can show hard numbers to prove it. WELL mr, SHOWER, shOW US PLEASE AND PUT US CRITICS TO BED...MAKE ME CALL YOU DADDY, AND SAY I AM SORRY DADDY...COME on now, go ahead, I will wait up, Surely a quick scan into the computer or a quick digi cam pic and upload to the puter would take 2 minutes. I can wait and will wait for you loudmouth.

So... it would make a richer forum if you back up your statements.
Again, reread it again, show me 1 time I said I made this or that here in tonight, just 1 time?
If you think that physics is making you money, YOU'RE GETTING LUCKY, the reality will set in soon, if you flip enough coins, you may hit heads 100 times in a row, guess what , it will even out or come to at some point, GUARANTEED...
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Hey dafishman no offence.

I've been posting a journal with daily activity of the system at

http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=70418

I basically need nothing from you. It is just that due to my scientific background I tend to support any statement I post, and I erroneously expect the same from other members. Sorry about that, my mistake.

Have a nice trading week. Take care.



Quote from dafishman:

well dan, lets see some proof,

Why do you need anything from me? Did i come on here stating what I am doing? or my figures in this thread? I dont think so, reread it and get back to me....

You and future are the smartest mothas on elite...You put RM and SteveT to shame, god bless you and yout 99.9% holy grail you got...

You should start posting in the P&L forum daily, gain some credibility...Maybe I will make a new handle and come back and say I made 10 million a day with astrology? SHoot, why not, you and future do it??????
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Well finally you come to your senses and are backing off...
The 24 year old statement means absolute shit....Age means NOTTA, there are 24 year olds who are retired from work, so your age is irrelevant....

About not having alot of MONEY, WTF, if you had a credit card with 5k, took it out and traded, you would have (MATH TIME FOR YOU MR TRIPPLER) I LIKE THAT NAME, MR TRIPPLER...
5k=15k in 3 mo.
15k=45k in 6 mo.
45k=135k in 9 mo.
135k=405k in 1 year

So I will say this as nice as I can and then I wont respond, deal?
YOUR FULL OF F***ING S***
Have sweet dreams and watch them sheep :), take care MR. TRIPPLER!

Quote from FutTrd:

ordinarily you would be quite right

however, you are talking to a 24 year old, I started 3 years ago, had my edge for only a year,

didn't have much to start with, so it will take 3-4 years to make serious money

also I am heavily margined, but that's because I know what I am doing.

you see, I didn't read books on trading,
I wrote one in my head.

my comp skills also happen to be exceptional

do you see the connection

BTW I won't bother responding to you no more

OH SHIT new episode of simpsons in 3 min
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Dan, i never had a problem with you, you started with me...I do not think that ANY science has to do with the markets. I actually think that is ABSURD. BORDERLINE LUDICROUS.

THAT is my OPINION & you know what they say about them, opinions are like a**holes, everyones got em...

Trading based on science is like basing it on coin flipping, astrology, hot/cold days, windy/rainy..I just want to know how physics can be applied to trading...

You're trying to MAKE it fit IN PHYSICS, well you can try to make trading FIT into anywhere of the above examples I just mentioned....There is no difference, just fancier names and equations, that's it....

An equation will not tell you if tomorrow will be an up/down day. If there is, you would be a BILLIONAIRE 100 TIMES OVER.

You're hoping for an edge ANYWAY possible & physics is just one of many, many examples people try to manipulate data with...and say AH-HA I GOT IT!!!! the moons are aligned, that is why AAPL WENT UP 3 POINTS TODAY!!!

COme on now, how silly is that to think like that? COuld you imagine telling a group of people you trade based on the moons or physics?



Quote from dan05:

Hey dafishman no offence.

I've been posting a journal with daily activity of the system at

http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=70418

I basically need nothing from you. It is just that due to my scientific background I tend to support any statement I post, and I erroneously expect the same from other members. Sorry about that, my mistake.

Have a nice trading week. Take care.
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YOU CANNOT PREDICT with 80% or more over a long period of time.....Trading is random.....you can get lucky and have a hot streak

, i win at blackjack here and there and win 10 hands in a row, is that possible to keep it up, EVEN IF I KNEW EVERY CARD LEFT??? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, IT IS RANDOM HOW THE CARDS WILL COME OUT, NO WAY TO KNOW IF THEY WILL FALL ON ME OR THE DEALER, RANDOM!!!!!!!!


Sure you could hit 60% and that is how people do it, shoot 55% and you are well off, just dont say that you triple your money in 3 months or 1/2 a year.....

It is not that easy and you make it seem so easy.....
When you hit 55%, if your prediction was wrong and you had all your money out there, 45% chance your wrong and there goes majority of your account....Trading like that is smart???????????????????????

All done now, time for bed...good night
 
Quote from Batterup:

Myself i believe there is a folly about those that indeed know physics from school, the folly being that those people believe they are smarter and wiser than those that did not take physics in school.
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REALLY TRUE...
 
I KNOW someone FIRST HAND WHO HAS A PHD IN PHYSICS!

Is he a good guy, YES!
Is he a good trader, NO!
Is he smart, YES! BUT BOOK SMART!!!!!
Does he have a good job? HELL YA!!!! over 100k!!!!
Does he think he is smarter then the average person, WITHOUT A DOUBT and BECAUSE OF THE DEGREE!!!!! & the job!!!!


There is a difference in being smart, some people can read a book, chemistry, physics, calculus, and get a GOOD GRADE on a test...But those same people, cannot get a furnace running, or fix a flat tire, or put a belt on the mower or drive a big truck or a car for that matter. Being good in math, science does not mean that you are the MASTER of the universe. People are smart in their own ways. Take the physics diploma and go to a plumbing job or carpenter job or truck driving place with it and see what it gets you/ heck even mcdonalds!!!! NOthing is universal..no degree will make you better then everyone else or get you ANY job there is...


Then those same people cannot trade because they dont understand there is no certainty in trading, physics is scientifically proven, cold hard facts, TRADING IS NOT!!!!!!!

I feel like talking to a wall with this guy and hes a good guy, just THICK!!!!!!

Now I seriously am going to bed!!!!!!!!!
 
My bed is 4 feet off the ground BUT THE PILLOW IS 8 inches THICK laying on the bed!!!!!!, IF I JUMP BEFORE I GET INTO BED, HOW LONG BEFORE MY HEAD HITS THE BED assuming I come down straight as a board with no bends!!!!!???????we will use 9.8m/s^
can you tell me how long this will take before my HEAD hits the pillow?

I been dying to know this for some time now! ALL YOU SCIENTISTS CHIRP IN PLEASE WITH THE ANSWER!!!! :)
 
Quote from FutTrd:

Now he says that, stock charts are exactly like streaming fluids over uneven surface.
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Doesn't he know that stock prices (trades) are the result of an auction controlled by humans based on emotion and supply/demand? How is this even remotely close to, let alone "exactly like" as you have stated, streaming fluids?
 
Your ass will hit the bed well before your head hits the pillow. :D LOL.

Quote from dafishman:

My bed is 4 feet off the ground BUT THE PILLOW IS 8 inches THICK laying on the bed!!!!!!, IF I JUMP BEFORE I GET INTO BED, HOW LONG BEFORE MY HEAD HITS THE BED assuming I come down straight as a board with no bends!!!!!???????we will use 9.8m/s^
can you tell me how long this will take before my HEAD hits the pillow?

I been dying to know this for some time now! ALL YOU SCIENTISTS CHIRP IN PLEASE WITH THE ANSWER!!!! :)
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