Philosophy of zionism

[WAEL012000]

Quote from spect8or:

God, if I didn't know it was you ddoo, I'd swear this was a caricature of a hysterical Jew.

You will note the resort to empty ad hominems (pizza boy -- good one!) and standard smears (racist, antisemite, nazi) and the absence of any attempt to engage in debate. Standard jew mo for as long as they feel it works. And hey, if I had a propaganda industry consisting of movie studios, network television and bigy city newspapers, I'd take advantage of the years of indoctrination about hitler, racism and antisemitism, too.

Dr.Albert D. Pastore quotes Jack Bernstein:

"I am well aware of the tactics YOU, my Zionist brethren, use to quiet anyone who attempts to expose any of your subversive acts. If the person is gentile, you cry "you're anti-Semitic," which is nothing more than a smokescreen to hide your actions. But if a Jew is the person doing the exposing, you resort to other tactics:

First, you ignore the charges, hoping the information will not be given widespread distribution. If the information starts reaching too many people, you ridicule the information and the person giving the information. If that doesn't work, your next step is character assassination. If the author or speaker hasn't been involved in sufficient scandal, you are adept at fabricating a scandal against the person or persons. If none of these are effective, you are known to resort to physical attacks. But NEVER do you try to prove the information wrong.

Bernstein challenged the ADL to an open debate on television. Not surprisingly, the challenge was declined.

The Nuturei Karta is a group of Orthodox Jews in Jerusalem who refuse to recognize the existence of the "State of Israel" In their literature they write:


"Zionist propagandists are always given to bullying tactics and censorship. It is very helpful in this regard to read former Congressman Findley's book, They Dared to Speak Out. It is the sorry record of the immense resources that the Zionist lobby invested in destroying the careers of politicians all across the United States who had voiced some qualms about this nation's subservience to Israel.

Of course, anti - Zionist Jews of all political and religious orientations have long experienced the lash of the Zionist movement. In 1924, a scholarly Dutch Jew, Dr. Jacob Israel de Hahn, who functioned as a secretary of Rabbi Yosef Chaim Sonnenfeld (1849 - 1932 ) Chief Rabbi of Palestine, (may their memories be blessed) was murdered as he returned from evening prayers outside Shaarui Zedek hospital in Jerusalem. His crime was that he had been involved in discussions with Arab leaders that offered an alternative to Zionist hegemony. His murderers were members of the Haganah, a Zionist, so - called "defense organization." In fact, Dr. de Hahn may well be described as the first victim of Zionist violence in the Holy Land. Yet, outside of a limited circle of anti - Zionist Jews, this cowardly and cold blooded murder is completely unknown "

http://nkusa.org/AboutUs/Zionism/index.cfm

 

[dddooo]

Quote from spect8or:

the absence of any attempt to engage in debate.

Hmm, I debate quite a lot of people here. I have no problem debating Wael, RatBoy and many others even though I consider them to be anti-Israel, anti-American, anti-western morons and conspiracy nuts.

There is a number of participants here with openly anti-semitic, neo-nazi, KKK views though. I don't debate them and as far as I am concerned you've crossed that line too. Your and their hateful rants speak for themselves, they don't need my rebuttals, in fact they illustrate to normal people that there is still a lot of racist and antisemitic lowlifes in the world and why it's so important for Israel to exist as a Jewish state. Don't expect any debate on issue from me as it's below my dignity but of course I reserve the right to remind the readers that you are a racist, anti-semitic, Nazi pig.

PS besides you're not saying anything new or interesting either, the Protocols were written a long time ago, "The international Jew" was also published. You're simply repeating the same crap that was published in those books, inexplicably, you are expecting different results.

 

[dddooo]

Quote from WAEL012000:

Wrong again! I have never kissed anybodies ass! never.

You just did. He was bashing islam and you were kissing his Nazi ass because he was also bashing the jews.

If I said what he said about Islam you'd be mad as hell and have already posted a dozen of your anti-zionist youtube videos. But when the Nazi boy bashes Islam and the Jews a real jihadist like you wael kisses his ass.

 

[WAEL012000]

Quote from dddooo:

You just did. He was bashing islam and you were kissing his Nazi ass because he was also bashing the jews.

Heck...I bash Islam! But it is for the sake of making it better. There is nothing easier than seeing the difference between a guy like you who has an agenda to inflame fear and paranoia against islam to ready the American people for the next war that will serve no one but you and what spect8or said.

I have disagreed and fought with spect8or on many occasions but I always knew that his charges were personal ones as opposed to a well oiled machine with a very well defined agenda to cause war, death and destruction.

I warned you ddooo. Don't say I didn't! I warned you that one day your last shred of credibility would be lost due to you and your fellow zionists's actions in promoting hate.

I warned you that when the fire of hate and racism spreads, it is not going to distinguish. And you started that fire and kept on adding fuel to it.

 

[spect8or]

Quote from dddooo:

Hmm, I debate quite a lot of people here. I have no problem debating Wael, RatBoy and many others even though I consider them to be anti-Israel, anti-American, anti-western morons and conspiracy nuts.

Yeah, boy, you really are going out of your way there, ddoo. You know, debating people with views different to your own and all. Quite commendable.

Your and their hateful rants speak for themselves

Oh, if only that were true.

they don't need my rebuttals, in fact they illustrate to normal people that there is still a lot of racist and antisemitic lowlifes in the world and why it's so important for Israel to exist as a Jewish state

Lol, that was nice the way you managed to squeeze support for Israel out of concepts that have nothing to do with it. If "racism" is wrong, then show it, don't just claim it. If "antisemitism" is wrong, then refute the claims of antisemites. And if they exist and they are wrong, it has nothing at all to do with the existence of an Israeli state.

In any case, you are again being duplicitious: it's open borders for America, but tight immigration controls for Israel (hell, they won't even allow in people who were born there); it's multiculturalism for America, it's Jewish supremacy for Israel.

Don't expect any debate on issue from me as it's below my dignity but of course I reserve the right to insult you.

It's not below your dignity; it's beyond your ability. And do keep the insults flying. They are always welcome proof that one cannot rationally respond.

PS besides you're not saying anything new or interesting either, the Protocols were written a long time ago, "The international Jew" was also published. You're simply repeating the same crap that was published in those books, inexplicably, you are expecting different results.

Anyone reading my posts can see that I cite recent evidence for the jewish malfeasance I claim exists. It has nothing to do with what antisemites a century ago said or thought. Though having said that, many of their claims remain thoroughly unrefuted; there is simply no need for me to resort to them.

 

[dddooo]

Quote from WAEL012000:

I warned you ddooo. Don't say I didn't! I warned you that one day your last shred of credibility would be lost due to you and your fellow zionists's actions in promoting hate.

Wael, get real, that the Nazi-pizza boy is anti-semitic is nothing new and has nothing to do with my credibility, you better count how many people have told you that you're an idiot, have destroyed all of you bogus arguments, have ridiculed you and laughed at you during the last week alone. What's new is that you're kissing the KKK boy's ass and agreeing with his Islam bashing, how desperate do you have to be to fall so low.

 

[ratboy88]

Quote from WAEL012000:


I warned you ddooo. Don't say I didn't! I warned you that one day your last shred of credibility would be lost due to you and your fellow zionists's actions in promoting hate.

I warned you that when the fire of hate and racism spreads, it is not going to distinguish. And you started that fire and kept on adding fuel to it.

he really did start it. i would talk about facts and waiting for the truth and he starts screaming about the mossad. in the past, when he pretended to be a progressive liberal he didn't seem so crazy. now he gets all mad and kooky. that is a sign of fear... he knows his lies aren't working anymore. he needs to stop his racist tones.

 

[WAEL012000]

Quote from dddooo:

Wael, get real, that the Nazi-pizza boy is anti-semitic is nothing new and has nothing to do with my credibility, you better count how many people have told you that you're an idiot, have destroyed all of you bogus arguments, have ridiculed you and laughed at you during the last week alone. What's new is that you're kissing the KKK boy's ass and agreeing with his Islam bashing, how desperate do you have to be to fall so low.

Here goes dddooo with his usual practices. Aside from your fellow zionists, I hardly know of any.

You, on the other hand have made so many enemies through your hate, hypocrisy and vindictiveness. You are a wicked man dddooo and it is due to your wicked ideology.

You are the biggest promoter of hate and racism on this forum yet you have the audacity to accuse others of being hateful and racist. Where do you come up with that audacity man?! How can you indiscriminately promote hate against a people and a religion and then come here and cry wolf about spect8or?? How can you do it? What kind of zionist training did you go through to make master such art???

As for spect8or, Even though we disagree on many things, I will not have a problem trusting this man. He is not going to stab me in the back. He has no agenda; he just expresses his own views which I disagree with many of them. You on the other hand???........

 

[WAEL012000]

Quote from ratboy88:

he really did start it. i would talk about facts and waiting for the truth and he starts screaming about the mossad. in the past, when he pretended to be a progressive liberal he didn't seem so crazy. now he gets all mad and kooky. that is a sign of fear... he knows his lies aren't working anymore. he needs to stop his racist tones.

Exactly ratboy! I made a post after your and we share very similar views about this character. That should tell you something about him. What is shocking is his audacity. the SOB is offended by spect8or's statements yet if you search his name and the word islam, you would see how he ooooooooooozes with hate and racism.

 

[ratboy88]

Quote from WAEL012000:

Exactly ratboy! I made a post after your and we share very similar views about this character. That should tell you something about him. What is shocking is his audacity? the SOB is offended by spect8or's statements yet if you search his name and the word islam, you would see how he ooooooooooozes with hate and racism.

he is the true racist and this is all coming to light. he hates our freedoms and he hates the truth. he is like all racist and his agenda is not to help the people but to perpetuate the status quo.

this is the hallmark of the fake left.... or what we call the left gatekeepers. they want to divert people away from the truth and get them involved in a useless right/left paradigm that solves nothing. that is how they win.

their most effective tactics are to smear people (that only want the truth) as racist. this tactic was very effective when they could also hide the truth, but those days are over. he knows all of this and thats why we are seeing him act like he has a screw loose. in reality... he does.