I think the cycle goes something like this:
Stage 1. Wow, I cant wait to learn how to trade for a living. I am so glad I found this knowledgeable guru, and this chatroom/forum full of helpful people.
Stage 2. This is so amazing. This TA stuff is great--- I never knew the market was so predictable! Boy, I'm really learning a lot.
Stage 3. Still not profitable but I know I'll get it. This like a graduate school education, so I'll just have to keep at it. The experienced guys in the forum must be making good coin, and soon so will I. I've actually started helping out the newbs on the site, answering their questions and pointing out their mistakes.
Stage 4. Hmmmm... I still cant get it. This all makes such perfect sense in hindsight but in real-time it never seems to come together. But Al keeps calling out profitable trade exits, and the experienced forum guys have such solid aftermarket comments.... I wonder what I'm missing? But I will not give up, as the guys in the room say, there is no wealth without work. Besides, the newbs I help are impressed with my knowledge and thank me for my help, so that must prove I know what I'm doing. I'm sure I'll be profitable soon enough.
Stage 5. Crap, I still cant be consistently profitable. I wish I could see someone trade this in real-time each day and observe the decision making process. The teachings make sense on a hindsight chart, but in real-time there are lots of cases where you could interpret it either way. It would be so helpful to see how these great traders do it in real time. But for all the knowledgeable people here, no one wants to teach in real time.
Stage 6. Still not profitable. Something doesnt seem right here. The guru often calls profitable exits, but never said where he entered. Sometimes he'll call an entry and it will go against him, and he'll disappear and come back pretending it never happened. The helpers seem great at pointing out newb errors on a hindsight chart, and pointing out great trade entries after the fact, but they never do anything in real time either.
Stage 7. Have I fallen for a scam? I've never seen anyone here produce a consistent record of live calls or blotters. Be it the guru or the other experienced group members. These guys all inspired such confidence at first, but I wonder if any of them are making any money trading? Hey, the newbs I help all think I'm a genius, yet I'm not even profitable!
At this point the trader has reached the point of no return and will either start trying to sell stuff himself, or eventually walk away, only to be replaced by another starry-eyed newb.
Welcome to the online trader education meat grinder. If you're lucky you stayed on a sim and didnt blow your life savings.