People who think you should be able to own guns...

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Situational Awareness isn't just peeking out the window every so often, BA. It's knowledge of where you live, what the risks are, what security system, locks, etc to have in place. It's having a plan to execute if an intruder does get into the house. It's a whole bunch of things that, when implemented, increase your statistical likelihood of surviving an encounter with a thug exponentially, most of which the general populace doesn't think is worth it's time, until it happens to them.

How is that a silly argument?
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I guess we're talking about two different things. I was making the point that the usefulness or risks of having a gun for protection in your home doesn't have much to do with the right to have a gun in your home.
 
I don't own a gun...yet. Just don't feel the need. That said, we as a free people have the right to own a weapon, and not just because someone, or some body politic say's it's OK. We have the right to defend ourselves, period. I don't need anyone's f'n permission to do so.
While I do have some issues with the fervor in which gun owners fight even the smallest of concessions, I do believe that a free people must fight government tooth and nail in the protection of their individual liberties. All government become tyrannical eventually. ALL GOVERMENTS! It's just how power corrupts men and there's no changing that. It is for that reason we must defend each and every liberty we have, no matter how small. Give'em an inch, they want a mile, and that has been proven time and again.
My position is simple. I defend the rights of the people, and FUCK the government. ALL GOVERNMENT! I don't need, want, or am asking for their permission slip to live my life.
 
Quote from CaptainObvious:

I don't own a gun...yet. Just don't feel the need. That said, we as a free people have the right to own a weapon, and not just because someone, or some body politic say's it's OK. We have the right to defend ourselves, period. I don't need anyone's f'n permission to do so.
While I do have some issues with the fervor in which gun owners fight even the smallest of concessions, I do believe that a free people must fight government tooth and nail in the protection of their individual liberties. All government become tyrannical eventually. ALL GOVERMENTS! It's just how power corrupts men and there's no changing that. It is for that reason we must defend each and every liberty we have, no matter how small. Give'em an inch, they want a mile, and that have been proven time and again.
My position is simple. I defend the rights of the people, and FUCK the government. ALL GOVERNMENT!
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I used to have guns in high school and as a young man. I hunted a lot but my interests changed and gradually got rid or gave away all my guns. I just bought a pistol from a buddy, why I don't know. All my gun friends said I needed one as much as I travel. Anyway I'm a gun owner again and I tell you what so far it's a pain in the ass. If you're going to have it for protection then it has to be loaded and nearby BUT if you're going to be safe you have to unload it and lock it up when you don't want it with you. Total pain!
 
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A picture speaks a thousand words!
 
Quote from bigarrow:

I guess we're talking about two different things. I was making the point that the usefulness or risks of having a gun for protection in your home doesn't have much to do with the right to have a gun in your home.
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I would agree with you. The right to own a gun in your home should not be infringed.
 
Quote from CaptainObvious:

...While I do have some issues with the fervor in which gun owners fight even the smallest of concessions...It is for that reason we must defend each and every liberty we have, no matter how small. Give'em an inch, they want a mile, and that has been proven time and again....
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You answered your own "question", in a manner of speaking.
 
CBS This Morning stood out on Monday as the only mention so far on the Big Three's morning and evening newscasts of the New York Times' Sunday item about sheriffs in Colorado who are "refusing to enforce" gun control laws passed earlier in 2013, "saying that they are too vague and violate Second Amendment rights. Many more say that enforcement will be 'a very low priority,' as several sheriffs put it."

Read more: http://newsbusters.org/#ixzz2nfJu3wHK
 
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I would agree with you. The right to own a gun in your home should not be infringed.
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And that little word is where the controversy lies. I had to show ID to buy ammo, some far right radicals would consider that an infringement but I didn't consider it to even be an inconvenience.
 
Quote from bigarrow:

And that little word is where the controversy lies. I had to show ID to buy ammo, some far right radicals would consider that an infringement but I didn't consider it to even be an inconvenience.
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I don't think it's an infringement.

The controversy or argument doesn't like with background checks so much as it does the right to own a gun. All you have to do is look at futurecurrents here, frothing at the mouth and spewing spittle about how banning guns is needed.
 
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