People who think you should be able to own guns...

Quote from bigarrow:

You didn't understand the point lucrum. The argument over gun control or as I think it should be stated arms control without specific details is meaningless.
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So then your statement was meaningless. Gotcha.
 
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Lucrum you're a fool.
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Because a below average intelligence red neck loser who never moved on from entry level manual labor and lives in a camper says so?

Uh...duly noted.
 
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Then you'll be interested to know, getting back on topic, that Hitler actually relaxed and expanded gun ownership!

"So did Hitler and the Nazis really take away Germans' guns, making the Holocaust unavoidable? This argument is superficially true at best, as University of Chicago law professor Bernard Harcourt explained in a 2004 paper (PDF) on Nazi Germany's impact on the American culture wars. As World War I drew to a close, the new Weimar Republic government banned nearly all private gun ownership to comply with the Treaty of Versailles and mandated that all guns and ammunition "be surrendered immediately." The law was loosened in 1928, and gun permits were granted to citizens "of undoubted reliability" (in the law's words) but not "persons who are itinerant like Gypsies." In 1938, under Nazi rule, gun laws became significantly more relaxed. Rifle and shotgun possession were deregulated, and gun access for hunters, Nazi Party members, and government officials was expanded. The legal age to own a gun was lowered. Jews, however, were prohibited from owning firearms and other dangerous weapons.

"But guns didn't play a particularly important part in any event," says Robert Spitzer, who chairs SUNY-Cortland's political science department and has extensively researched gun control politics. Gun ownership in Germany after World War I, even among Nazi Party members, was never widespread enough for a serious civilian resistance to the Nazis to have been anything more than a Tarantino revenge fantasy. If Jews had been better armed, Spitzer says, it would only have hastened their demise. Gun policy "wasn't the defining moment that marked the beginning of the end for Jewish people in Germany. It was because they were persecuted, were deprived of all of their rights, and they were a minority group."

On the NRA, Adolph Hitler, Gun Registration, and Nazi Gun Laws
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I just saw this, but it doesn't surprise me. The Germans disarmed the very populace they then turned around and persecuted. Not a shocker.
 
Quote from Tsing Tao:

I just saw this, but it doesn't surprise me. The Germans disarmed the very populace they then turned around and persecuted. Not a shocker.
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If Americans were required to take a course or two on world and financial history, perhaps we'd be able to short-circuit this same history being repeated in our lifetime.

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Quote from LEAPup:

You're such a witty individual.:confused:
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I wasn't being witty. Lucrum is a fool and so are you and max. Unable to follow even simple ideas if they conflict with your religious like beliefs. I should apologize to you and Lucrum for putting max in the same sentance with you. He is totally worthless and you and Luke probably have some good qualities in real life.
 
I don't know about the other posters in here, but I come from a pretty rough background. I'm 28 now, but up until I was 21, I lived in high-crime areas in which there was lots of murder, robbery, drugs, and overall violence. As I became older and understood how things worked, I realized that these high-crime areas are almost always liberal/democrat ran cities. On top of that, you'd be crazy to not own a gun in one of these places...especially if you could get one legally. We all know the founding fathers' stance on protecting one's self from government tyranny, but I came up in places in which you needed your gun to protect yourself from someone trying to rob and kill you for the few dollars you may (or may not) have had on you. Calling the police is stupid because they would've shown up after the fact.

In addition to that. When I was 14, a group of thugs invaded my home and held me and my 9 year old brother at gunpoint while they stole everything they wanted (a few days before Christmas). Surely enough, if we had a gun in the house, I would've blown each of them away.

Therefore, we need guns not just to protect from government tyranny but also from lowlife punks who seek to victimize others. A person can be naive if they want and believe that taking away guns will reduce crime. But that will only make you an easier target for criminals considering that there's a whole black market for guns. Do you think criminals are walking into gun stores and buying guns? Hell no...they buy them off the street. Taking guns away from law abiding citizens will leave guns only to government and criminals.
 
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I don't know about the other posters in here, but I come from a pretty rough background. I'm 28 now, but up until I was 21, I lived in high-crime areas in which there was lots of murder, robbery, drugs, and overall violence. As I became older and understood how things worked, I realized that these high-crime areas are almost always liberal/democrat ran cities. On top of that, you'd be crazy to not own a gun in one of these places...especially if you could get one legally. We all know the founding fathers' stance on protecting one's self from government tyranny, but I came up in places in which you needed your gun to protect yourself from someone trying to rob and kill you for the few dollars you may (or may not) have had on you. Calling the police is stupid because they would've shown up after the fact.

In addition to that. When I was 14, a group of thugs invaded my home and held me and my 9 year old brother at gunpoint while they stole everything they wanted (a few days before Christmas). Surely enough, if we had a gun in the house, I would've blown each of them away.

Therefore, we need guns not just to protect from government tyranny but also from lowlife punks who seek to victimize others. A person can be naive if they want and believe that taking away guns will reduce crime. But that will only make you an easier target for criminals considering that there's a whole black market for guns. Do you think criminals are walking into gun stores and buying guns? Hell no...they buy them off the street. Taking guns away from law abiding citizens will leave guns only to government and criminals.
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Well said, sir.
 
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