People who think you should be able to own guns...

Quote from LEAPup:

No need to be facetious. I'm just pointing out what I've seen and heard behind the scenes. Does anyone want a revolt? NO! We The People just want our Country back from a government that has become what exactly what our Founders feared.
Reality and common sense, however, point to more of the same and worse if this government is allowed to continue the way it currently is.

President Dwight Eisenhour sent federal troops to Arkansas to force the governor to comply with a Supreme Court decision mandating school desegregation. As far as I know, no troops defected or refused to point arms at their fellow citizens or local elected officials.

Obama has been methodically purging the military of officers who do not support his radical policies. The military has gone from the most traditional, religious and family-supportive organization in the country to one that promotes the gay agenda and persecutes Chaplins who refuse to go along.

Obama himself has shown a chilling disregard for the Constitution or separation of powers. He does what he wants, whether it is ignoring bankruptcy law or unilaterally modifying Obamacare or making illegal recess appointments when congress is in session. Senate democrats made a naked power grab by claiming that a simple majority vote could overrule the filibuster rules.

I wish I shared your confidence that soldiers would not follow orders to engage in domestic repression, but history shows that militaries usually are only too willing to comply, particularly when they have become as politicized as ours is.
 
Quote from LEAPup:

No need to be facetious. I'm just pointing out what I've seen and heard behind the scenes. Does anyone want a revolt? NO! We The People just want our Country back from a government that has become what exactly what our Founders feared.
Reality and common sense, however, point to more of the same and worse if this government is allowed to continue the way it currently is.

I'm not being facetious. What you say truly makes me feel better.
 
Quote from Tsing Tao:

No, just stuff from you that is trolling. Stating you had a private conversation with Obama and for someone to disprove you is just horseshit, and you just posting it to argue (when you got caught BSing us again).
Wrong. The point is, I made a claim just like Lott's.
 
Quote from Lucrum:

... I can see where someone who gets their "facts" from the "news" media would think that.
It's exactly what they've been brainwashed to believe.

In 1997 a criminologist estimated that private gun ownership prevented nearly 7,000 (not a typo) crimes everyday. Most go unreported and without firing a shot. Overall the crime rate has declined since then so presumably so has that number. But private gun ownership saves more lives than what it costs in terms of criminal gun abuses and accidents, FAR MORE.
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Good points;
mrc has a good expose named ''profiles in bias'':cool:
 
Quote from AAAintheBeltway:

President Dwight Eisenhour sent federal troops to Arkansas to force the governor to comply with a Supreme Court decision mandating school desegregation. As far as I know, no troops defected or refused to point arms at their fellow citizens or local elected officials.

Obama has been methodically purging the military of officers who do not support his radical policies. The military has gone from the most traditional, religious and family-supportive organization in the country to one that promotes the gay agenda and persecutes Chaplins who refuse to go along.

Obama himself has shown a chilling disregard for the Constitution or separation of powers. He does what he wants, whether it is ignoring bankruptcy law or unilaterally modifying Obamacare or making illegal recess appointments when congress is in session. Senate democrats made a naked power grab by claiming that a simple majority vote could overrule the filibuster rules.

I wish I shared your confidence that soldiers would not follow orders to engage in domestic repression, but history shows that militaries usually are only too willing to comply, particularly when they have become as politicized as ours is.
Certainly valid points/concerns AAA. Although it seems to me an all out civil war would be a somewhat different situation. And undoubtedly cause some defections from the military.
 
Quote from Lucrum:

http://www.gunfacts.info/

Right hand side of page. A little dated on some of the stats but overall little has changed. There are a lot of charts and footnotes so it's not nearly as long of a read as it initially appears.




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Honestly, this site looks pretty low-budget. In any case, there are about 50,000-60,000 GSW in US per year.

http://www.uphs.upenn.edu/ficap/resourcebook/pdf/monograph.pdf
 
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