Pence cancelling all events Friday and is flying back to D.C.

Good chance we'll find out soon.

Comparing her to Pence:

Pence is simply a yes-man for Trump.

Part of being VP is to offer an independent opinion to the President. Trump suppresses those that think differently than he does. And that's a dangerous thing, especially in a democracy.

I strongly doubt Harris will simply be a yes-woman.

There is also her legal skillset that she brings to the table.

And the fact that she got to where she is, as a WOMAN ... of COLOR ... in 'MERICA, says a lot about her drive, determination, and character; as well as her intelligence and experience.

She makes Pence look and sound basic.

You and your buddy's repeated, tasteless attacks on her probably doesn't have the effect on readers that you're looking for. And probably doesn't make the silent majority of 'your people' that read these forums, ... proud of you.

I'm actually glad you and your buddies are here, reminding all exactly just what's on the mind of some people. People really need to know how you and a few others think.

Harris got to where she is by giving blow jobs. I guess you give that some importance. That shows what you think black people should do to get to the top.

Oh, and Pence made her look like the rookie politician that she is. No wonder they don't want a 2nd debate. She lost big time. All she could do is smile. WTF
 
Harris got to where she is by giving blow jobs. I guess you give that some importance. That shows what you think black people should do to get to the top.

Oh, and Pence made her look like the rookie politician that she is. No wonder they don't want a 2nd debate. She lost big time. All she could do is smile. WTF
There it is! That's the FortuneTeller I want the world to see! LMAO!

Where are the other two stooges? You're funny alone; but together, ya'll are unstoppable!

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There it is! That's the FortuneTeller I want the world to see! LMAO!

Where are the other two stooges? You're funny alone; but together, ya'll are unstoppable!

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You actually wasted time putting my nick in bold? How pathetic of you. LOL

I'm sure the 3 stooges voted Democratic by the way.
 
You actually wasted time putting my nick in bold? How pathetic of you. LOL

I'm sure the 3 stooges voted Democratic by the way.

It's no worse than the time I waste chatting with you. It's simply an extension of that waste. Besides, I try to do that when I don't use the '@' symbol.

It's a gentleman thing. If I am referring to someone in a post, I want them to easily see it; so as not to give the impression that I'm talking about them on the sly.

Like I said, it's a gentleman thing ... I'm sure you've never heard of such a courtesy.

Hey, I know you're busy ...

... so I'll let you get back to insulting women of color, insulting men of color, insulting women not of color, praising racist "organizations," insulting the elderly, insulting the not-so-attractive, insulting gays, all while sucking Trump's little1 cock ... and making 'your people' proud of you.

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1 Confirmed by Stormy Daniels.
 
...Hey, I know you're busy ...

... so I'll let you get back to insulting women of color, insulting men of color, insulting women not of color, praising racist "organizations," insulting the elderly, insulting the not-so-attractive, insulting gays, all while sucking Trump's little1 cock ... and making 'your people' proud of you.

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1 Confirmed by Stormy Daniels.

Maybe its time for us to show them empathy...
  • They are hurting
Sunday (9pm est) there's a documentary on TV here in Canada called How The World Sees America (a Fareed Zakaria Special) on CNN.

Although its not connected to the below article about a book...both help me understand a part of my family in South Dakota that I spent most of my time with outside of family in Chicago and South France.

I highly recommend you read the book called Coming Apart: The State of White America, 1960–2010 (best seller) to understand why many at this forum feel the way they do...many of them finding their voice since Trump took office although its a voice of hatred that sickens me and I'm lost for words why such is allowed here at a forum about Trading.

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That flattering glow has faded away. Today, less privileged white Americans are considered to be in crisis, and the language of sociologists and pathologists predominates. Charles Murray’s Coming Apart: The State of White America, 1960–2010 was published in 2012, and Robert D. Putnam’s Our Kids: The American Dream in Crisis came out last year. From opposite ends of the ideological spectrum, they made the case that social breakdown among low-income whites was starting to mimic trends that had begun decades earlier among African Americans: Rates of out-of-wedlock births and male joblessness were rising sharply.

Then came the stories about a surge in opiate addiction among white Americans, alongside shocking reports of rising mortality rates (including by suicide) among middle-aged whites. And then, of course, came the 2016 presidential campaign. The question was suddenly no longer why Democrats struggled to appeal to regular Americans. It was why so many regular Americans were drawn to a man like Donald Trump.

A barely suppressed contempt has characterized much of the commentary about white woe.

Equally jarring has been the shift in tone. A barely suppressed contempt has characterized much of the commentary about white woe, on both the left and the right. Writing for National Review in March, the conservative provocateur Kevin Williamson shoveled scorn on the low-income white Republican voters who, as he saw it, were most responsible for the rise of Trump...

The truth about these dysfunctional, downscale communities is that they deserve to die. Economically, they are negative assets. Morally, they are indefensible. Forget all your cheap theatrical Bruce Springsteen crap. Forget your sanctimony about struggling Rust Belt factory towns and your conspiracy theories about the wily Orientals stealing our jobs … The white American underclass is in thrall to a vicious, selfish culture whose main products are misery and used heroin needles. Donald Trump’s speeches make them feel good...

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2016/09/the-original-underclass/492731/

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"Huge MAGA-crazy Florida retirement village all of a sudden fears COVID, thinks their harpy red hats won't protect them from VP Pence's upcoming visit."

MAGA-Crazy Retirement Village Now Fears COVID—and Pence
“The virus was a hoax here until Trump got it,” one resident said.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/maga-...es-now-fears-covid-19-and-mike-pence?ref=home

Fresh off a vice presidential debate where he sported a reddish, sickly-looking eye, Vice President Mike Pence appears to be charging ahead with a plan to visit America’s largest retirement community in the critical swing state of Florida.

But with the White House battling a spiraling COVID-19 outbreak, not everyone in the traditionally Trumpy stronghold of The Villages will be happy to see him.

On Saturday, Pence is slated to stop by the 55-and-older community in Sumter County as part of a campaign bus tour through the Sunshine State. The VP would arrive in The Villages as President Donald Trump’s support with senior citizens has shown signs of a drop-off in recent months—and with the president dealing with his own case of the novel coronavirus.

Unlike Trump, who is already making noise about returning to the campaign trail, Pence has not announced a positive test result for COVID-19. But the vice president’s proximity to the growing number of White House staffers who have contracted the virus after a now notorious Rose Garden event has some Villagers—and infectious disease experts—running scared.

“The virus was a hoax here until Trump got it,” Chris Stanley, president of The Villages Democratic Club, said of the MAGA crowd’s attitude. “The other night they did a prayer vigil and for the first time, they posted in a big font, ‘You must wear a mask.’ I looked on the webcam and didn’t see many wearing masks, but they now seem to be accepting this is not a Democrat hoax at all.”

Marissa Levine, an infectious disease expert at the University of South Florida, said it was on elected officials to demonstrate safe habits. That category does not include campaign rallies among vulnerable communities when you have recently been proximal to a possible superspreader event.

“It is really important for leaders to role-model the behaviors that are being recommended from a public health point of view,” Levine told The Daily Beast. “In effect, they are flouting the CDC guidelines.”

People exposed to COVID-19 should comply with adequate testing, contact tracing, and isolation measures, especially when preparing to meet with senior citizens, Levine said. “In an area where there are individuals, based on age alone, at higher risk for complication and death, that seems like a concerning thing to do,” she said of a Pence Villages visit.

Sumter County, where a majority of the sprawling housing development is located, has reported a total of 2,593 coronavirus cases since the pandemic began. Two hundred and sixty people have been hospitalized and 75 have died—a mortality rate of 3 percent of all positive cases, which is 1 percentage point higher than the statewide average for deaths, according to the latest update from the Florida Department of Health.

Over the past week, Sumter County has experienced some of the highest daily positivity rates in the state. On Sept. 30, the daily positivity rate was 21.86 percent. Then it dropped below 10 percent for six consecutive days. But on Oct. 7, the daily positivity rate sprang up to 15.3 percent. The daily case count jumped from just 14 on Tuesday to 98 on Wednesday.

The Trumpian response to the pandemic has created fissures in the president’s once seemingly impregnable wall of support in The Villages, where an overwhelming majority of the 132,000 residents are white, conservative voters. According to the Tampa Bay Times, Trump won Sumter and the two surrounding counties of Lake and Marion by 115,000 votes in 2016, nearly 40,000 more votes than Mitt Romney picked up four years earlier.

By early summer, Democratic Villagers were mounting protests to counter roving golf cart caravans of Trump supporters. During one mid-June parade, protesters shouted “Nazi lovers” and “fuck Trump” at a parade of pro-Trump golf carts, prompting a white haired man to yell back, “white power!” The scene was captured on a video that went viral and was tweeted by Trump himself on June 28. The president deleted the tweet the same morning.

“There are a few people in every organization that want to be ugly, and that happens here too,” said Fred Briggs, a 79-year-old retired naval officer who’s resided in The Villages since 2012. “But there have been no physical confrontations. It’s just words. When you get to be our age, you realize your physical limitations and try not to exceed them.”

Since Trump tested positive, the White House has been cartoonishly slow to share details about the virus’s spread, especially as it pertains to an event for Supreme Court nominee Amy Coney Barrett in the Rose Garden that has been linked to more than 30 cases. The administration has conducted selective contact tracing at best, leading to concerns about yet-undetected cases among other officials and staff. Announcements and news reports of new White House COVID cases have emerged steadily for days, and Trump quickly returned home after a hospital stay this week, infamously removing his mask before he went inside.

The Villages’ administration isn’t coordinating Pence’s visit; the vice president’s invitation came from an “independent” organizer, not the official Villages staff, a representative for the community told The Daily Beast, adding that she could not comment on COVID precautions for the event because she had “no clue” who’d arranged it.

The Trump campaign, for its part, insisted the Pence rally would be a safe one, despite a long tradition of risky arena events dating back long before the president got sick. “We take strong precautions for campaign events,” a spokesperson told The Daily Beast. “Every attendee has their temperature checked, masks are provided and their use is encouraged, and there is plenty of hand sanitizer.”

“I certainly don't think any of us will get real close to him.”


John Calandro, who recently served as president of the Sumter County Republican Executive Committee, said the Pence visit would take place with adequate precautions—even as he nodded to the anxiety in the area.

“I know things will be fairly socially distant,” he told The Daily Beast on Thursday, adding that he was on his way to examine the event setup. The Trump campaign was taking the lead in planning the event, he said.

“I certainly don't think any of us will get real close to him,” he added of Pence, laughing.

Ed Brennan, a Democrat living in The Villages, said he wasn’t scared, but that Trump supporters were notoriously enthusiastic about campaign visits, which didn’t exactly lend itself to pandemic safety.

“The last time Trump was down here, we had a whole bunch of screaming Trump people,” he told The Daily Beast. “I went down to the square to watch. I was accused of George Soros paying me, and I should be in jail because I supported Democrats.”

He predicted mask use at the event would be hit or miss.

Judy Pristaw, a member of the Villages Democratic Club, said her group was steering clear of the Pence party—but also that Trump’s own COVID diagnosis might have scared some sense into others in the area.

“A couple restaurants told me that the day he tested positive, restaurants weren’t as crowded that night,” she said. “But I think people who like Trump are just as excited about him as we are about electing Joe Biden.”

On Wednesday, ahead of the VP debate, face-covered Villagers in 400 golf carts decked out in Biden-Harris signs participated in a caravan to deliver mail-in ballots to the Sumter County Supervisor of Elections, Stanley, the Democratic club president, recalled. “People are revved up, man,” she said. “They are excited.”

But Robin Viger, a volunteer with the Villages Democratic Club who knows a family of three who came down with the disease, was more focused on the immediate danger of the vice president coming to town than electoral prospects.

“I’m opposed,” she said. “I don’t want him here. I don’t want the virus.”

Follow-up...


Banner Flies Over VP Speech to Florida Retirement Community: ‘Pence Is Why You Can’t See Your Grandkids’
https://www.thedailybeast.com/banne...nity-pence-is-why-you-cant-see-your-grandkids

As Mike Pence spoke to retirees in Florida on Saturday, a banner towed by a plane flew over his head: “Pence is why you can’t see your grandkids.” The vice president addressed members of The Villages, the nation’s largest retirement community, warning the largely maskless crowd that the election would determine “whether America remains America.” It was not immediately clear who was behind the banner, which was captured on video. The Villages, usually a conservative stronghold, seems more and more contested territory in the 2020 election. On the same day as Pence’s speech, a parade of golf carts carrying senior citizens headed towards the polls to drop off ballots for former Vice President Joe Biden.
 
Sunday (9pm est) there's a documentary on TV here in Canada called How The World Sees America (a Fareed Zakaria Special) on CNN.

Been watching this since it started 40 mins. ago.

What a sad story we've become to ourselves ... to the world.
 
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