Pelosi Impeachment Inquiry

[Tony Stark]

What is unrealistic is Congress ever getting an approval poll higher than 20% on the course they are on. It is not until Conservatives and Liberals get together as Americans that we will have a representative Government again. Right now we are pawns being used against each other in a contest of rich, condescending politicians or foreign powers, right?

Are you up for getting a little unrealistic? How about really unrealistic? Wasn’t it unrealistic for a bunch of colonists in America from Europe to be successful rebelling against the superpower of the day known as the British Empire?

So let’s get unrealistic together and encourage others to do so. After all, we are on social media for a reason, right? We want to express our views and ideas for a better life and for the world that we live in. Yes, some are on social media just for entertainment. But not us. Right? Let’s encourage others to get involved and look for ways to make our Government more responsive to us.

Yes?

Democrat presidents do a better job at keeping nuclear weapons out of the hands of countries like Iran and North Korea.

 

[maximumpossiblesuffering]

Democrat presidents do a better job at keeping nuclear weapons out of the hands of countries like Iran and North Korea.

Let’s move away from deflection and “the other side did that” game. These techniques have only worked in getting groups of people fighting against each other. The most honest and accurate view might be along the lines of both sides made some serious missteps in foreign policy.

Now back to us: It is one thing to copy, paste, and complain. It is something else entirely to do something about those things that piss us off. Would you be willing to consider teaming up with me and others to actively participate in a movement to make our Government more accountable?

 

[Tony Stark]

Let’s move away from deflection and “the other side did that” game. These techniques have only worked in getting groups of people fighting against each other. The most honest and accurate view might be along the lines of both sides made some serious missteps in foreign policy.

Now back to us: It is one thing to copy, paste, and complain. It is something else entirely to do something about those things that piss us off. Would you be willing to consider teaming up with me and others to actively participate in a movement to make our Government more accountable?

Lets just stay on the topic that Iran is building nuclear weapons again because of the idiot in The White House.

 

[maximumpossiblesuffering]

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/30/us/politics/bolton-trump-north-korea.html

Bolton Criticizes Trump’s Courtship of North Korea

Without mentioning Mr. Trump by name, Mr. Bolton said he wanted to “speak in unvarnished terms about the threat posed by North Korea,” and made it clear that he thought the president’s outreach to Mr. Kim had benefited only one side. And while Mr. Trump has made a deal with Mr. Kim one of his signature foreign policy goals, Mr. Bolton asserted that there had been no gains with his approach.

“The strategic decision Kim Jong-un is operating through is that he will do whatever he can to keep a deliverable nuclear weapons capability and to develop and enhance it further,” Mr. Bolton said during an appearance at the Center for Strategic and International Studies. “Under current circumstances, he will never give up the nuclear weapons voluntarily.”

Stopping nuclear proliferation in the Korean Peninsula is where the United States needs “to focus our attention,” Mr. Bolton said, “not can we get another summit with Kim Jong-un or what the state of staff-level negotiations are to achieve a commitment from North Korea it will never honor.”

What are our practical options with North Korea? Let’s break it down:

1. North Korea will never give up their nuclear weapons.

Option 1 - We recognize this is as their prerogative and accept it. Probable result - Increased geopolitical stability with a small long term risk of accidental launch or adverse regime change that results in a detonation of a nuclear weapon.

Option 2 - North Korea having nuclear weapons is considered unacceptable and we decide to take their nuclear weapons away. Probable result - A small nuclear war involving other weapons of mass destruction such as biological and chemical weapons causing significant casualties on at least two continents. Possibility of escalation involving more powerful countries. Heavy casualties in China, North Korea, and South Korea is all but certain.

2. North Korea will give up their nuclear weapons.

Option 1 - We ask nicely, but don’t offer Kim any guarantees. Guaranteed result - Kim tells us to pound sand. Duh.

Option 2 - We off Kim guarantees regarding his position of power and massive economic incentives involving other key players such as China, including maybe European countries and Japan. My perception is the North Korean people are durable and could be particularly productive if the had the opportunity. North Korea is well situated next to the productive capacity of China, the Resources of Russia, and the craftsmanship of the Japanese. Combined with US management know how, this deal could be a major win for almost everybody. If much of the world is now able to redirect resources from their war machines and instead put those resources toward our environment, every life form on this planet wins. North Korea is also near major established shipping routes. Probable result - World peace, a better environment, and better economic opportunities for many.

What would be your choice?

 

[elderado]

Let’s move away from deflection and “the other side did that” game. These techniques have only worked in getting groups of people fighting against each other. The most honest and accurate view might be along the lines of both sides made some serious missteps in foreign policy.

Now back to us: It is one thing to copy, paste, and complain. It is something else entirely to do something about those things that piss us off. Would you be willing to consider teaming up with me and others to actively participate in a movement to make our Government more accountable?

The lefties won't do it.

“In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot.” - Mark Twain.

 

[maximumpossiblesuffering]

Lets just stay on the topic that Iran is building nuclear weapons again because of the idiot in The White House.

What topic is more relevant than a properly functioning Government? Trump was elected because of voter dissatisfaction of the establishment, right?

Cause and effect. Things happen for a reason. Until we address the underlying causes of our disfunction, things will never change. Please don’t tell me you believe electing an establishment politician is going to change anything.

We, the people, are the sovereign. Power emanates from us to our representatives. It is time we start acting that way.

Do you agree?

 

[maximumpossiblesuffering]

The lefties won't do it.

“In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot.” - Mark Twain.

You may be right, but I want to try. “A house divided cannot stand”.

 

[TreeFrogTrader]

You may be right, but I want to try. .

That's what she said when the bed broke!

 

[Tony Stark]

Trump was elected because of voter dissatisfaction of the establishment, right?

The so called establishment candidate got millions more votes so I wouldn't say that.

 

[Tony Stark]

What are our practical options with North Korea?

North Korea wouldn't have had nuclear weapons if not for a republican president.With The US being bogged down in the unpopular illegal Iraq war NK knew there would be no support from the American people or American allies for a confrontation with North Korea.Bush is also partly to blame for Iran(Trump more so) because Saddam kept Iran in check.