Paul Tudor Jones Warns

just for the record, this is from zerohedge.





Quote from Angrycat:

GM chapter 11 = PRICED IN
125K+ jobs lost from GM chapter 11 = PRICED IN
unemployment @ 9% = BETTER THAN EXPECTED
unemployment @ 10% = DOW SOARS
unemployment @ 11% = GREEN SHOOT RALLY
unemployment @ 12% = ALREADY FACTORED IN
unemployment = 35% = DOW DROPS 100 POINTS
Governme nt spends 1 trillion of OUR dollars = STIMULUS
North Korea fires nuke = RALLY
Israel bombs Iran = 30 MINUTE END OF DAY RALLY
world explodes = ASIA RALLIES
PMI crashes = HUGE RALLY
No jobs are created = RECESSION ALMOST OVER
U.S. debt overwhelming = TOO BUSY RALLYING TO CARE
Consumer stops spending = RETAIL RALLY
Banks are insolvent = SIGNS OF STABILIZATION
American auto industry BK = GOOD THING 8:58 AM

Banks pass scam stress tests = HUUUUUUUUGE RALLY
Banks "only need 75 billion = OUT OF THE WOODS
Banks pass a real stress test = NEVER WOULD HAPPEN
Banks pay back tarp = LATE DAY SURGE
Banks can't pay back TARP = EARLY MORNING SURGE
12% mortgage delinquency = GOOD FOR STOCKS
Hundreds of thousands of mortgages underwater = HOUSING BOTTOMED
Dollar rises = RALLY
Dollar crashes = RALLY
Inflation = BULL MARKET
Deflation = BULL MARKET CONTINUES
REFLATION = MASSIVE SHORT COVERING RALLY
Gold rises = STOCKS RALLY 8:59 AM

Gold falls STOCKS RALLY
CONSUMER INSOVENT = CONSUMER IS SPENDING
OIL @ 50 = BULL RALLY
OIL @ 60 = GREEN SHOOT
OIL @ 100 = IMPORTANT RECOVERY SIGN
OIL @ 20 = TAX BREAK And the one we should all interpret correctly:
NO ONE IS BUYING STOCKS = BILLIONS ON THE SIDELINES
 
I just read a research note from David Rosenberg at Gluskin Sheff in Canada (he was the former Merrill chief economist) and he says that at this point in the cycle it is normal for the market to rally 20% ahead of the trough in employment, but not the 50% that it has without nary a sign that the job cycle has turned the corner.

He sees $60 of earnings on the S&P for next year and puts a fair value P/E of 14x on the market to get an equilibrium level closer to 840, and not the 1,000 where we currently are.
 
Quote from Angrycat:

GM chapter 11 = PRICED IN
125K+ jobs lost from GM chapter 11 = PRICED IN
unemployment @ 9% = BETTER THAN EXPECTED
unemployment @ 10% = DOW SOARS
unemployment @ 11% = GREEN SHOOT RALLY
unemployment @ 12% = ALREADY FACTORED IN
unemployment = 35% = DOW DROPS 100 POINTS
Governme nt spends 1 trillion of OUR dollars = STIMULUS
North Korea fires nuke = RALLY
Israel bombs Iran = 30 MINUTE END OF DAY RALLY
world explodes = ASIA RALLIES
PMI crashes = HUGE RALLY
No jobs are created = RECESSION ALMOST OVER
U.S. debt overwhelming = TOO BUSY RALLYING TO CARE
Consumer stops spending = RETAIL RALLY
Banks are insolvent = SIGNS OF STABILIZATION
American auto industry BK = GOOD THING 8:58 AM

Banks pass scam stress tests = HUUUUUUUUGE RALLY
Banks "only need 75 billion = OUT OF THE WOODS
Banks pass a real stress test = NEVER WOULD HAPPEN
Banks pay back tarp = LATE DAY SURGE
Banks can't pay back TARP = EARLY MORNING SURGE
12% mortgage delinquency = GOOD FOR STOCKS
Hundreds of thousands of mortgages underwater = HOUSING BOTTOMED
Dollar rises = RALLY
Dollar crashes = RALLY
Inflation = BULL MARKET
Deflation = BULL MARKET CONTINUES
REFLATION = MASSIVE SHORT COVERING RALLY
Gold rises = STOCKS RALLY 8:59 AM

Gold falls STOCKS RALLY
CONSUMER INSOVENT = CONSUMER IS SPENDING
OIL @ 50 = BULL RALLY
OIL @ 60 = GREEN SHOOT
OIL @ 100 = IMPORTANT RECOVERY SIGN
OIL @ 20 = TAX BREAK And the one we should all interpret correctly:
NO ONE IS BUYING STOCKS = BILLIONS ON THE SIDELINES

Angrycat, thanks for posting that...

:D


I shouldn't be smiling though, because wrath is going to rain down on teh economies of the world.

The real economy is absolutely horrible, and the MSM is full of either programmed liars or the dumbest motherf**ckers ever bred into existence.
 
He's short, obviously. He did make his first fortune by shorting just prior to Oct. '87. Then again, Livermore made $100mm by shorting just prior to 0ct. '29, and he shot himself years later, broke. Not implying anything whatsoever here, except that your only as good as your last trade. Jones violating one of his own top rules: price first, then fundamentals.

Down 250k jobs tomorrow - dow up 200

Down 450k jobs - dow down 200 initially, then close up 200
 
Quote from Tide31:

He's short, obviously. He did make his first fortune by shorting just prior to Oct. '87. Then again, Livermore made $100mm by shorting just prior to 0ct. '29, and he shot himself years later, broke. Not implying anything whatsoever here, except that your only as good as your last trade. Jones violating one of his own top rules: price first, then fundamentals.

Down 250k jobs tomorrow - dow up 200

Down 450k jobs - dow down 200 initially, then close up 200

Mr. Obama himself has indicated a weak August job market report :

http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?threadid=171783

Good luck + good trading
 
August is always a tough month. The whole world goes on vacation. It's a month where it's easy to let the negative news slip in. It's usually always a good idea to be net short in August. I am.
 
I have every confidence that Goldman has only the best interests in mind of moms and pops everywhere. I'm certain their market prognostication this year will be every bit as accurate as their prediction of $250/barrel oil last year. Pay attention to what GS says and you'll be farting through silk! :D
 
Quote from nazzdack:

Fundamental jibberish aside, PTJ should command more "respect" but AJC should command more "influence". They both may be "right" about where we are in the market. :cool:

Did they reveal their positions?
 
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