Paul-led panel considers Fed abolishment bill

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That's what Bankers and Government say.... But they reap huge benefits from fiat money, don't they? Are you sure Scat wasn't right?
No, that's actually not a subjective observation, but a statement of fact... Deficiencies of capitalism are well known in economics, just like deficiencies of democracy are known in politics. This isn't to say that there are superior alternatives, but one musty be aware of the imperfections.
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It's not a matter of whether "capitalism is/isn't perfect". Capitalism is the best and HEALTHIEST economic model.... self-policing, self-correcting, rewarding those who work hard/smart.... and self-limiting of government's excessive spending.
It's certainly the best and the healthiest model we have experienced so far. However, yet again, that doesn't mean that it's perfect and it's those imperfections that need to be addressed somehow.
 
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Because capitalism isn't perfect...

But a bunch of guys trying to micromanage a huge, complex system and really messing it up is somehow perfect...
 
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It's certainly the best and the healthiest model we have experienced so far. However, yet again, that doesn't mean that it's perfect and it's those imperfections that need to be addressed somehow.

And they were addressed much better in the pre-Fed, low/no intervention era.
 
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But a bunch of guys trying to micromanage a huge, complex system and really messing it up is somehow perfect...
Who says micromanage? Everything in life is good in moderation... Overregulated, micromanaged capitalism doesn't work, but neither does fully unfettered, unregulated capitalism. The trick, as usual, is to find just the right mix.
 
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And they were addressed much better in the pre-Fed, low/no intervention era.
That is not the case and there's an abundance of research to demonstrate that. I can cite you some, if you like.
 
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It's not a matter of whether "capitalism is/isn't perfect". Capitalism is the best and HEALTHIEST economic model.... self-policing, self-correcting, rewarding those who work hard/smart.... and self-limiting of government's excessive spending. America was a GREAT country.. primarily because of the individual protections of the Constitution and Bill of Rights + Capitalistic economic model.

We've degraded significantly since we started to abandon those principles... ie, Teddy Roosevelt's beginning of the Progressive party in 1906, and Woodrow Wilson giving us the Federal Reserve in 1913.

Both of those assholes are on my "Worst Presidents" list... along with George W. Bush and Odumbo.... others too, of course. (Surprisingly to some ETers, I'm sure... Clinton is NOT on the worst list.)
+1000
 
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Deficiencies of capitalism are well known in economics, just like deficiencies of democracy are known in politics. This isn't to say that there are superior alternatives, but one musty be aware of the imperfections.

Would you kindly enlighten us as to what the deficiencies in capitalism are, and cite some examples?
 
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That is not the case and there's an abundance of research to demonstrate that. I can cite you some, if you like.

Sure, lets talk about it. Coles notes?
 
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Would you kindly enlighten us as to what the deficiencies in capitalism are, and cite some examples?
Two main categories:
1) Provision of public goods, aka issues that have to do with negative externalities
2) Monopoly issues
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Sure, lets talk about it. Coles notes?
I dig up a few. Pls bear w/me.
 
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Two main categories:
1) Provision of public goods, aka issues that have to do with negative externalities

What do you mean by negative externalities? I don't work for a multi-billion dollar hedge fund, my friend. Can you dumb it down for me, a bit?

If you mean, provision of public services (funded via taxes), we seem to do okay now? And then (post-1930's)?

Reasonable tax rates are certainly compatible with a capitalist system? The Founders funded via tariffs and excise?


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2) Monopoly issues

These aren't deal-breakers, imo. Without excessive regulation (and regulators to buy off), what's wrong with monopolies if they provide a good or service well below that of other free market competitors? That's a boon to the general economy. Not a blight, ya?



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I dig up a few. Pls bear w/me.

Sure thing. No rush.
 
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