Paul Krugman is Still Selling a Fake Alien Invasion as a Boost to the Economy

Quote from Tsing Tao:

Walk me through how you get to violence and bloodshed from a banking collapse.

Not disagreeing. Just curious how you get from one to the other.

Banks go down and so do thousands of businesses. Millions lose their jobs. ATM's stop working, ready cash is impossible to get. People panic. Paniced people are not rational. They're not just going to lay down and die in the street. They will take what they need, or what they think they need.
 
Quote from Tsing Tao:

Oh? Please educate us. What is that other factor that has weight in the equation?

Do you even understand what the relationship is to commodities being down AND Treasuries being down?

Houses are up? Against what?

Looking forward to you answering any or all of these questions - just this once.
Demand. Yes. Last year. Hope I made your day.
 
Quote from CaptainObvious:

Banks go down and so do thousands of businesses. Millions lose their jobs. ATM's stop working, ready cash is impossible to get. People panic. Paniced people are not rational. They're not just going to lay down and die in the street. They will take what they need, or what they think they need.

Why would thousands of business go down just because the large banks are crushed? Small to mid sized community banks would get hurt, but would take even more of the market than they do now. Right now, they're taking up on the lending side of the equation. ATMs stop working? Why? Cash for those in TBTF banks might be an initial problem, but not in smaller regional plays.
 
Quote from Ricter:

Energy, down. Food, down. Gold, down. Treasuries, down. (Ok, houses, up.) Suddenly, speculators don't seem to think there's any returns out there. Hmm. It's like, like, some other factor has more weight in the equation. What could that be? Hmm.

Quote from Ricter:

Demand.

So demand in oil caused it to drop from $100 to under $80 in less than two months? Riiiight. Demand has (almost) nothing to do with it. It's more like the free Fed money has begun to dry up and the big players recognize the writing on the wall. No new QE means no new money to make it's way into the commodities market.

Quote from Ricter:

Yes.

You claim to have an understanding in what the market is telling us when commodities and treasuries (yield) are down. Please explain what this is saying in how it relates to your argument on demand. Demand for Treasuries is rising (yield dropping). You think this is based on demand for commodities falling? I'm just not sure what you are trying to say. Are you?

Quote from Ricter:

Last year.

Yes, positively stellar numbers.

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Quote from Tsing Tao:

Why would thousands of business go down just because the large banks are crushed? Small to mid sized community banks would get hurt, but would take even more of the market than they do now. Right now, they're taking up on the lending side of the equation. ATMs stop working? Why? Cash for those in TBTF banks might be an initial problem, but not in smaller regional plays.

Time my friend. The time it takes for cooler heads to prevail just wouldn't happen fast enough. Like I said, there will be panic. They won't be thinking that their money is safe in the community bank. They'll want it all, and they'll want it right now. Businesses will fail because all discretionary spending will stop. From resturants to car dealerships, ain't nobody gonna' buy what they don't absolutely need. Hording money will be the game plan for most people. Once the looting and shooting starts it won't be easy to stop.
 
Quote from Tsing Tao:

So demand in oil caused it to drop from $100 to under $80 in less than two months? Riiiight. Demand has (almost) nothing to do with it. It's more like the free Fed money has begun to dry up and the big players recognize the writing on the wall. No new QE means no new money to make it's way into the commodities market.
I didn't think I needed to say "lack of" demand, since you already gave another thread on that very topic a "duh" affirmation.
 
Quote from Lucrum:

Probably less than you think. Currently asking $550,000. They paid $1.94 M for it in 2004. Airworthy and ready to fly.

550 buyin... then maintenance... you... gas... parking fees at other airports. 20-50 grand a month?

I would have to step up my game to another level... and that level would be the very highest level I could get to in my line of work. No more posting on et. I would have to work harder and trade a lot more. For me the effort would not be worth it.

I think that kind of money just has to flow in.
 
Quote from Ricter:

I didn't think I needed to say "lack of" demand, since you already gave another thread on that very topic a "duh" affirmation.

The word "Demand" (in my commentary) is meant to include both Strong and Weak Demand. Thank you for making me clarify what would have been obvious to a 12 year old.

It still has little to do with the movements.
 
Quote from CaptainObvious:

Time my friend. The time it takes for cooler heads to prevail just wouldn't happen fast enough. Like I said, there will be panic. They won't be thinking that their money is safe in the community bank. They'll want it all, and they'll want it right now. Businesses will fail because all discretionary spending will stop. From resturants to car dealerships, ain't nobody gonna' buy what they don't absolutely need. Hording money will be the game plan for most people. Once the looting and shooting starts it won't be easy to stop.

I think, if this actually goes down as you say, the phase of panic will be less than two weeks. Businesses won't have time to fail on a large scale.
 
Quote from Tsing Tao:

The word "Demand" (in my commentary) is meant to include both Strong and Weak Demand. Thank you for making me clarify what would have been obvious to a 12 year old.

Lol, likewise.
 
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