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PATTERNS -- So These REALLY Work???
- Thread starter al c.
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al
Is this pattern some sort of Gartley or are you just using a type of "measured move" analysis off of high and low pivots?
Also I was wondering with the chart you posted, are thare any specific angles fib #'s or retracements you are using and find are reproducable with this pattern?
ab
Is this pattern some sort of Gartley or are you just using a type of "measured move" analysis off of high and low pivots?
Also I was wondering with the chart you posted, are thare any specific angles fib #'s or retracements you are using and find are reproducable with this pattern?
ab
of my trading is pattern based. I have been at this full time, more or less, for 15 years, and have only been really consistent for the past couple, so I wouldn't say its "easy" once you know the patterns. The psych factor, in my opininion, is the most important part.
For what its worth, I trade retracements exclusively. I look for the same stuff over and over. I use a number of tools, all basic stuff (channels, FIB's, MA's).
Works for me...now anyway.
Jay
For what its worth, I trade retracements exclusively. I look for the same stuff over and over. I use a number of tools, all basic stuff (channels, FIB's, MA's).
Works for me...now anyway.
Jay
Quote from al c.:
Sorry, MACD I must have done something wrong on my last attempt at attaching a file which contains the chart I mentioned.
I will try again. If it does not work this time, I can email it to you if you would like.
Thanks,
al c.
Why did you draw so many lines? I would use just the last 3 lines forming a zigzag and it would work too. The lower part would be as long as the top one, the zig would not matter. What's the rationale for using more lines? Also, what's the rationale behind the 1.27 Fib retracement? I have never heard of such a number. How do you get it from the ordinary Fib Rets?
Thanks,
Wally
Quote from al c.:
Jayford,
My trading is strictly pattern based as well. However, I don't use ANY other indicators, strictly the price patterns which must meet specific FIB. RATIOS OF PRICE AND TIME.
Keep up the good work,
al
In my experience, FIB retracements are golden on large range days intra day. The pit boys are looking at this I think. I know many of the hedge funds do. Also valuable for major long term points. Medium term, weeks to a month, I think its a bit worthless.
That said, any retracement system will work in the long run if ya let the winners gain a bit. By definition you should be taking small losses and trading in the general trend when trading this way. Tough to do psychologically, but the only way I can make money day trading.
BTW, When I said use MA's, its not what you think. I use em for support/resistance when there is no obvious channel or FIB point. My order of preference is:
1. Channels. Even on a one minute chart.
2. FIB retracements on an intraday level, or based on previous day if I think a range day is in store (subjective).
3. Rally/decline to MA's. I prefer to use 10 period high/low, but five period on 15 minute charts (got that from Larry Williams, sort of. He uses 3 period, but that's too damn sensitive).
Jay
Iâve only explored the principle behind using Fib Ratios, but do not yet feel comfortable or confident applying it in actual trades. So it is not part of my production system for analyzing patterns.Quote from al c.:
Kermit,
Have you, or do you ever use Fibonacci Ratios along with your pattern analysis?
Kermit