Pat Robertson. God sent the earthquake because haiti made a pact with the devil.

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Personally I think all collectivists worship the devil, albeit perhaps unwittingly.
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I don't think I have heard the term collectivists before.
What do you mean?
 
Try the American Red Cross. I don't believe they are controlled by "Haitian Despots."

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I want to donate but i am afraid my $$$ will go to the pockets of the haitian despots:( [/QUOTE]
 
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I don't think I have heard the term collectivists before.
What do you mean?
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socialists , communists, wealth redistributionists, chavez & obama bots
 
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Interesting assumptions. Just assumptions that you believe ...
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Careful now, atheists don't believe- they just have reasons to not believe.

It's a huge difference ya know! Sorta like jobs created or saved...or funded.
 
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Careful now, atheists don't believe- they just have reasons to not believe.

It's a huge difference ya know! Sorta like jobs created or saved...or funded.
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Indubitably ...
Yet are we not all defined by our belief structures?
Isn't belief a core characteristic of the very discovery nature of mans desire to know and explore?

I personally see belief as not at all the same as "faith."

I see belief as core to the creative processes in man ...
mans ability to assess information and reason and make creative connections and jumps in logic and reasoning.

As I understand it belief is a human design and intellect issue enabling us to
view our world outside of ourselves and assess and
evaluate discoveries and creative efforts and their benefits or costs.
[E.G. - Every baby exercises belief when crawling on a carpet ...
the discovery is worth the slight discomfort of carpet rash knees.]
 
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Careful now, atheists don't believe- they just have reasons to not believe.

It's a huge difference ya know! Sorta like jobs created or saved...or funded.
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yep, that really works . The notion that no belief is belief is just about dumber than a fart in a church.
 
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Not really ... I am observing the radical "Almost Jihad Religious" vehement judgmentalism of others
... observing it and simply exposing the continued instability of such.

It is interesting that all that hate and judgment is frothing
and few can see the very areas of those judging are mirrors of themselves. [People judging more a mirror of their own issues]

What then is blind religion ... those who rant and rave over their belief structures over anothers.

I am simply stating what I know and believe without attacking as you and others are doing.
I haven't made any of this personal disrespectful attacks, nor attacked personally but exposed general behavioral principles
and observed the radical rage and personal attacks of the judgmental types.


It is quite a display of internal fruit. This is just an observation.
I am glad that none of the major attackers are religious ...
as that level of "Jihad type Hate and disrespect" displayed in the ravings and attacks would be a deadly combination.

I'm just exposing it. The frothing demonstrates it.
If you will look carefully [and be honest and truthful] you will see that I have not made personal attacks or slanders,
I have not been disrespectful but simply exposed and rolled back on to the judgmental an exposure of their unfounded judgments.
Fielding attacks and exposing of unfounded attack and rage and false assumption.

Unfounded rage, attack and false assumption is the very epitome of evil of both religion and rebellion. There is no truth in any of those behaviors. No stability.
It represents the basest of human behavior and has been responsible for the greatest loss of human life in human history from the early crusades to Hitler.
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You’ve endorsed and condoned the ‘judgmentalism’ of Pat Robinson on other people.
Then you say those who challenge that - are being judgmental. Add self-contradictory to your self-serving self-righteousness.

Unable to justify or substantiate the sheer maniacal assertion that natural disasters are divine intervention along with those corresponding judgmental remarks against people suffering an earthquake, you try to hang your own despicable shortcomings of classic fundamentalist religious belief onto anyone who points out those false claims and unsavory superstitions .

Your rants about others ranting is sounding very hollow.
 
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You’ve endorsed and condoned the ‘judgmentalism’ of Pat Robinson on other people.
Then you say those who challenge that - are being judgmental. Add self-contradictory to your self-serving self-righteousness.

Unable to justify or substantiate the sheer maniacal assertion that natural disasters are divine intervention along with those corresponding judgmental remarks against people suffering an earthquake, you try to hang your own despicable shortcomings of classic fundamentalist religious belief onto anyone who points out those false claims and unsavory superstitions .

Your rants about others ranting is sounding very hollow.
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So can we safely assume that you ascribe to the great unwashed masses that "religion is the opium of the people"?

And can we also safely assume that you know who made the quote?
 
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