Parents of slain British tourists slam Obama

Quote from AAAintheBeltway:

You don't seem to undertstand that in this country, the police are not the last word. The prosecuting attorney decides whether or not to file charges. Who is better trained to understand the law, a cop or a lawyer who will actually present the case to a jury?

The cop here had no reason to doubt Zimmerman's story. He cited no contrary evidnece, just his personal opinion which counts for shit. Who knows what his motivation was? Maybe he wanted to get a felony arrest on his record, maybe he correctly foresaw there would be trouble stirred up by the race hustlers.
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This is Florida homicide prosecutor Ken Padowitz talking.


"According to former Florida homicide prosecutor Ken Padowitz, who served for 16 years in the Broward County State Attorney's office, with the Sanford police video showing George Zimmerman being escorted in handcuffs into police headquarters, under Florida's rules of criminal procedure, Zimmerman was under arrest.

While in custody, the Sanford Police Department generated a police report that listed three charges, under a section labeled Offense Section, in relation to George Zimmerman: Homicide/Negligent Manslaughter/Unnecessary Killing to Prevent Unlawful Act.

According to Mr. Padowitz, Florida rules of criminal procedure do not contain any provision for un-arresting anyone taken into custody, which raises what appears to be glaring discrepancies in the handling of the initial arrest of George Zimmerman, among those being what Florida rule or statute was employed to set George Zimmerman free?

No one in authority involved in the Trayvon Martin investigation, from the Sanford police, which has officially relinquished its role in the investigation or State Attorney Norman Wolfinger has ever stated that the initial charges listed by Sanford police in their report the night of George Zimmerman's arrest were dropped or dismissed.

To the contrary, former Chief Lee has appeared on camera on several occasions to state he was unable to arrest Zimmerman, which appears to have been a misstatement of the events of what had previously occurred, that being that Zimmerman had been arrested the night of Trayvon's death on February 26, 2012.

What is now unknown is what Florida rule(s) or law(s) the officials involved the night of the death of Trayvon Martin decided to invoke as their justification for setting George Zimmerman free and if that rule(s) or law(s) would supersede and make irrelevant the need for a formal process that would usually involve filing for the charges listed in the Sanford police report, Homicide/Negligent manslaugher/Unnecessary Killing to Prevent Unlawful Act, to be dismissed or dropped."


Continue reading at NowPublic.com: Charges Against Zimmerman on File for Trayvon Martin's Death | NowPublic News Coverage http://www.nowpublic.com/world/charges-against-zimmerman-file-trayvon-martins-death#ixzz1qwSjRq4v
 
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Continue reading at NowPublic.com: Charges Against Zimmerman on File for Trayvon Martin's Death | NowPublic News Coverage http://www.nowpublic.com/world/charges-against-zimmerman-file-trayvon-martins-death#ixzz1qwSjRq4v
That's just an opinion piece from some obscure website. Let us know if Zimmerman is ever charged and what the charges are. Until then there is nothing to discuss. Unless there is some new evidence or witness, it looks like the self-defense contention is going to stand and there won't be any charges. You can post opinion stories until you are blue in the face. It won't change a thing.
 
Quote from pspr:

That's just an opinion piece from some obscure website. Let us know if Zimmerman is ever charged and what the charges are. Until then there is nothing to discuss. Unless there is some new evidence or witness, it looks like the self-defense contention is going to stand and there won't be any charges. You can post opinion stories until you are blue in the face. It won't change a thing. [/QUOTE

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No. That is opinion from the Florida homicide prosecutor. I post this because AAA poster ask this;

QUOTE]Quote from AAAintheBeltway:

"Who is better trained to understand the law, a cop or a lawyer who will actually present the case to a jury?"
 
No. The guy they talk about is a private lawyer. He may have started he career as a prosecutor but is now just a lawyer. Most prosecutors are newer lawyers. Now, look at the title of the story. It says "OPINION".

Even if this lawyer were the governor it says nothing. There are no charges or Zimmerman would be in jail. He has not been charged. He hasn't posted any bond. NOTHING. There is NOTHING. I can't paint it any clearer for you.

Quote from trendlover:

Quote from pspr:

That's just an opinion piece from some obscure website. Let us know if Zimmerman is ever charged and what the charges are. Until then there is nothing to discuss. Unless there is some new evidence or witness, it looks like the self-defense contention is going to stand and there won't be any charges. You can post opinion stories until you are blue in the face. It won't change a thing. [/QUOTE

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No. That is opinion from the Florida homicide prosecutor. I post this because AAA poster ask this;

QUOTE]Quote from AAAintheBeltway:

"Who is better trained to understand the law, a cop or a lawyer who will actually present the case to a jury?"
 
Quote from pspr:

No. The guy they talk about is a private lawyer. There is no official title in Florida called a "Florida Homicide Prosecutor". It's a made up term. He may have started he career as a prosecutor but not by that title. Most are newer lawyers. Look at the title of the story. It says "OPINION".
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"A twenty-four year lawyer, Ken Padowitz was a former Homicide Prosecutor with the Broward County State Attorneys Office for 16 years. Ken is an "AV" rated lawyer, the highest rating given by Martindale-Hubbell (http://www.martindale.com/Kenneth-D-Padowitz/3730274-lawyer.htm) and recognized as Florida's Legal Elite 2009 . Ken has tried over 250 jury trials, including over 35 First Degree Murder trials. As a Homicide Prosecutor, Ken had one "Not Guilty" verdict out of the 35 murder trials he tried."
http://www.lawyercentral.com/Kenneth-D-Padowitz-Interactive-Profile--20-161292.html





Quote from pspr:
Even if this lawyer were the governor it says nothing. There are no charges or Zimmerman would be in jail. He has not been charged. He hasn't posted any bond. NOTHING. There is NOTHING. I can't paint it any clearer for you.
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That is what this prosecutor ask. Why if George Zimmerman have handcuffs and arrest, and charge of manslaughter in the writing report, he is free? Why?
 
Quote from AAAintheBeltway:


Tribalism is inconsistent with a progressive, pluralistic society, and it is despicable for the media and liberals to try to foment it or exploit it.

Getting past tribalism is what has propelled America to her uniqueness. But between liberals, which I believe you pointed out was a coalition of minorities, and conservatives who is really the more tribal?

CTD, became absolutely unhinged yesterday. And his response was quite primal.
 
Quote from Brass:

Fascinating how the racists come out to play
the moment they see their brethren step into the fray.

Fascinating how gayfly becomes itchy and antsy
the moment he sees a black kid that holds his fancy.
 
Quote from trendlover:

That is what this prosecutor ask. Why if George Zimmerman have handcuffs and arrest, and charge of manslaughter in the writing report, he is free? Why? [/B]

Apparently it is because in the prosecutor's opinion there was not enough evidence to hold him and seek an indictment. This is the standard procedure. Whether it should be the standard procedure is another question. A suspect can be retained for a period. However, if there turns out to be insufficient evidence to keep them under arrest, they are supposed to be released. The decision to hold or release may be based on the opinion of just one person. Opinions are sometimes wrong, and sometimes there is malfeasance is involved. It is a far from a perfect Justice system.

It is unfortunate that there were no witnesses, so far as we know, other than the young man who is dead and Mr. Zimmerman. Apparently, Mr. Zimmerman was legally carrying a firearm, and also apparently, it is legal for him to shoot someone in self-defense. The prosecutors job is to determine whether there is sufficient evidence of a crime to hold and charge Mr. Zimmerman. Unfortunately the Justice system is imperfect and mistakes are made routinely. Guilty people go free; innocent people are convicted. Justice in the U.S. is meted out unevenly.

It is absurd for anyone without information other than opinion or guesswork to reach any conclusion regarding this case, and that would include, at this point, those demonstrating on behalf of the young man who was killed, and also those who have reached the conclusion that Mr. Zimmerman is innocent, based on the paltry evidence so far available to the public.
 
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What you are reading are lies spread to the media by Martin's parents lawyers.

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/St...uest/-/1637132/10042672/-/tovmqt/-/index.html [/B]
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No. What I post before is about Chris Serino lead investigator want charges. Then I post another link for why he is handcuff/arrested, then no charges. That is true. What you post in your link is NOT what I was talking about. You know that too.
 
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