Papa Johns

[nutmeg]

I have to put this out there regarding pizza.

There are 46 "Ray's Pizza" in nyc, not a franchise, just a bunch of different people calling themselves "Ray's Pizza". Funny as hell and only in New York.

Links not working, google Ray's pizza wiki

 

[Joe]

Quote from nutmeg:

I have to put this out there regarding pizza.

There are 46 "Ray's Pizza" in nyc, not a franchise, just a bunch of different people calling themselves "Ray's Pizza". Funny as hell and only in New York.

Links not working, google Ray's pizza wiki

Haha, yeah and every one of them swears they are the original lol.

 

[killthesunshine]

Quote from Lucrum:

I dunno but I do like their pizza.

i hate it. that figures. it has a yellowish tint to it what f^king chemical does that??

 

[Maverick74]

Quote from Joe:

Haha, yeah and every one of them swears they are the original lol.

Joe, are you looking to go into the business?

 

[killthesunshine]

domino's really improved their pies.

 

[Hello]

Your definately right on this, the cost probably triples once they (fast food joints) factor in the amount of food they throw in the garbage.

However the margins are still astronomical when it comes to the soda they sell, people think pizza margins are ridiculous, but fast food crushes them in terms of that.

I would love to hear the margins on coffee shops, they probably dont even factor in the cost of coffee, LOL. 3 dollars for a coffee which is probably worth 1 cent, starbucks and other coffee shops must be laughing their ass off at stupid people willing to pay these prices.

Quote from Maverick74:

I'll point out thought a big difference between pizza and fast food. Fast food only has value because it is FAST. That FAST comes at a cost. McDonalds does not sell every hamburger it makes. Not even close. They waste a lot of food. Food that never gets sold but tossed in the trash. If they try to make it fresh and improve their margins, then they lose the speed. So there is a trade off between speed and margin. Pizza places don't waste food. They are made to order. Also the dollar margins are substantially higher. It caters to feeding the whole family, not just a single person.

Another thing I'll point out is that most franchises, McDonalds included, you have to buy your food from them. They mark all that shit up. Benefits the company itself, but not the franchise owner. There is also fuel costs, insurance, payroll, etc.

 

[killthesunshine]

Quote from Hello:

Your definately right on this, the cost probably triples once they (fast food joints) factor in the amount of food they throw in the garbage.

However the margins are still astronomical when it comes to the soda they sell, people think pizza margins are ridiculous, but fast food crushes them in terms of that.

I would love to hear the margins on coffee shops, they probably dont even factor in the cost of coffee, LOL. 3 dollars for a coffee which is probably worth 1 cent, starbucks and other coffee shops must be laughing their ass off at stupid people willing to pay these prices.

STF up you verbose clueless moron.

 

[Maverick74]

Quote from Hello:

Your definately right on this, the cost probably triples once they (fast food joints) factor in the amount of food they throw in the garbage.

However the margins are still astronomical when it comes to the soda they sell, people think pizza margins are ridiculous, but fast food crushes them in terms of that.

I would love to hear the margins on coffee shops, they probably dont even factor in the cost of coffee, LOL. 3 dollars for a coffee which is probably worth 1 cent, starbucks and other coffee shops must be laughing their ass off at stupid people willing to pay these prices.

Yes, the margins on paper are ridiculous but just like trading, there is no free edge out there. What happens is, because you are "buying into a brand" they rape you on costs. So yes, the "corporation" itself, whether it be McDonalds or Starbucks make a killing, I guarantee you that corporate is not selling the food to the franchise owner at that price. That one cent soda probably costs the franchise owner 60 cents. Yes, they rape them.

If this were an option, you could say the premium is priced into what you are getting. That's why a lot of guys just try to start their own place. Then you can actually try to get food at costs and earn the markups. Of course the risk is who wants to take a chance on "Hello Pizza and Coffee". So you are going to have to run promotions around the clock to get people to try your product. Yeah it sucks man, most these markets are pretty efficient, just like trading.

The real edge I think though is running these things in large college towns.

 

[killthesunshine]

ya YA college towns thats real edge..although i never owned or operated even one on these LOL

 

[Hello]

I agree with you again, in all regards in terms of your post.

Quote from Maverick74:

Yes, the margins on paper are ridiculous but just like trading, there is no free edge out there. What happens is, because you are "buying into a brand" they rape you on costs. So yes, the "corporation" itself, whether it be McDonalds or Starbucks make a killing, I guarantee you that corporate is not selling the food to the franchise owner at that price. That one cent soda probably costs the franchise owner 60 cents. Yes, they rape them.

If this were an option, you could say the premium is priced into what you are getting. That's why a lot of guys just try to start their own place. Then you can actually try to get food at costs and earn the markups. Of course the risk is who wants to take a chance on "Hello Pizza and Coffee". So you are going to have to run promotions around the clock to get people to try your product. Yeah it sucks man, most these markets are pretty efficient, just like trading.

The real edge I think though is running these things in large college towns.