By the end of Obama's reign, we will be lucky if we're even allowed to have this conversation. Look at his role model Hugo Chavez in venezuela. Criticizing the government will not only cost you your job, like it does here. It will land you in jail.
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Palin was Right on "Death Panels"
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Let me guess...you are a white guy fearful of minority groups treating whites like whites have treated minority groups...
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I can only imagine how being a Caucasian would affect one's favor with those "life panels". I'm sure there will be racial quotas to meet, just as with every other government distribution of resources. :eek:
As much as that would make your tiny wiener as hard as a drive by the elementary playground, it's another false claim.
LOL! You just said that you believe that non whites will be in charge of running health care death panels!!! LOL!!
LOL! You just said that you believe that non whites will be in charge of running health care death panels!!! LOL!!
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Let me guess...you are a white guy fearful of minority groups treating whites like whites have treated minority groups...
"You just said that you believe that non whites will be in charge of running health care death panels!!!
Please provide a quote where I said that...
Please provide a quote where I said that...
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As much as that would make your tiny wiener as hard as a drive by the elementary playground, it's another false claim.
LOL! You just said that you believe that non whites will be in charge of running health care death panels!!! LOL!!
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What a foolish argument, really nonsense from Palin.
Health care rationing goes on today, with or without government.
Those who can afford it, get it.
Those who can't afford it, don't get it.
Those who can afford it go to Europe, etc. if necessary.
The wealthy will still get whatever health care they need.
Do the right wingers know that people routinely now go to Mexico for health care...as they can't afford it here in the US?
So a "Death Panel" is exactly the same as a health insurer deciding that it is not economically justifiable to give someone health care. It happens all the time. It will continue to happen all the time, until such time that the people of America genuinely put life first...which they actually don't...especially when it comes to profit for the private sector.
I'd say no, having to make health care choices for ones self based on a life time of earning or saving, or not, is nothing at all like having those choices made for you by a government board.
So in your mind a board made up of private sector bureaucrats working for a health insurance denying/delaying health care such that you would die is different than a government board doing the same thing...
Fascinating...
What, do you think you will go to private sector Heaven when you die at the hands of an insurance company, where under government health care you go to govenment sector Heaven?
Too flugging funny...
Fascinating...
What, do you think you will go to private sector Heaven when you die at the hands of an insurance company, where under government health care you go to govenment sector Heaven?
Too flugging funny...
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I'd say no, having to make health care choices for ones self based on a life time of earning or saving, or not, is nothing at all like having those choices made for you by a government board.
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So in your mind a board made up of private sector bureaucrats working for a health insurance denying/delaying health care such that you would die is different than a government board doing the same thing...
Fascinating...
What, do you think you will go to private sector Heaven when you die at the hands of an insurance company, where under government health care you go to govenment sector Heaven?
Too flugging funny...
The difference is when a person dies because an insurance company denied coverage, it is a scandal and an outrage, even if the company was justified. It is also extremely rare, despite the media trying to make it seem routine. We know from historical experience with socialized medicine, in Great Britain for example, that extreme neglect and rationing of care for the elderly and most vulnerable are not only commonplace but designed into the system.
"The difference is when a person dies because an insurance company denied coverage, it is a scandal and an outrage, even if the company was justified."
Are you personally outraged that an insurance company made a financial decision over someone's life?
Are you personally outraged that an insurance company made a financial decision over someone's life?
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The difference is when a person dies because an insurance company denied coverage, it is a scandal and an outrage, even if the company was justified. It is also extremely rare, despite the media trying to make it seem routine. We know from historical experience with socialized medicine, in Great Britain for example, that extreme neglect and rationing of care for the elderly and most vulnerable are not only commonplace but designed into the system.