Palin says daughter, 17, pregnant
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Quote from Pa(b)st Prime:
You're smart enough to know much of Blinders point is bullshit.
We'll talk the dollar/Reagan first. The dollar was VERY volatile in 84-87. In 84 or 85 the Pound was 1.05. The WSJ would have ads every day fror "grey market" German cars. The dollar crash in 87 was really just short covering and for all the ballyhoo of the 87 crash stocks still finished the year higher despite losing 22% in one day.
There's only one economic reason for dollar weakness. We buy everything abroad and export squat. Rates diffs, budget deficits all bs. Look at the Yen. Japan is a fiscal disaster with 3 times the per capita debt as the U.S. and interest rates of zero. Their currency is viable because of exports. Period.
Back to Blinder. Clinton economy was great. No two ways about it. But income stats and Dow stats are decieving because of inflation. For instance wage growth has been greater under Bush (or close) than to Clinton. Does it matter? No because prices paid are eating up the gains. It was the same thing with HST and LBJ wage growth. Wages bumping at 8% a year mean nothing if inflation is running the same. I grew up with Jack Bourudjian the guy who's on CNBC from the CME every now and then and I rememember him buying all these kick ass cyclicals in 83-85 because they hadn't moved up despite inflation increasing their book value 3 fold from the early 70's. He mopped up. Was the stock market rally a "bull item" for America? Not really because it wasn't based on productivity gains just inflation gains. IMO we'll see the same thing again. Stocks will exceed by a few cents not because of better business but because of inflated prices. A can of KO just moves higher so naturally KO rev keeps pace. It's a false premise to judge economic strength.
In all honesty I haven't really seen an iota of correlation between Presidents and economic policy. In general I'd say a GOP congress has corelated to some good times but that's not a fer sure either. I've said for years if government was an arbiter of markets then why not bring in Hu Jintao.
Pabst,
I know where Blinder comes from and I've always blamed James B. yelling at the Germans over Dollar/DM for precipitating the Crash. That said, how do we explain the Clinton years? I think Greenspan (who hated Dems} has the answer in his book where he talks about meeting with the new President and getting him to agree to walk away from his lofty campaign spending pledges to get the bond vigilantes to back off - the economy ripped after that is pretty much AG's assessment.
www.chrismartenson.com/failure-to-save this is what our dollar is worth
This point was made yesterday - it says a lot about this woman that she would knowingly put her child through this. It isn't like she didn't know what it would be like. The coverage has been devastating and will only get worse. The rumour that the youngest son is really Palin's grandson has hit the mainstream media, which ran a picture of Palin a month before the alleged birth of the son looking like a trim 132 pounds.
What sort of woman would choose this for her child? No doubt her daughter said 'Go ahead, Mom' but aren't adults supposed to be able to make better choices? Hard to believe.
As an aside, Pabst, I noticed you forgot to respond to my post to you in the other thread. This has been knwon to happen to the far right when it is pointed out that this woman would try to force a 14-year old child to carry a gang-rape induced pregnancy to term. Sudden onset of acute laryngitis. You, of course, probably just missed the post, even though you were around all that day right around that time and responded to all the other posts to you... : )
Yes, those religious extremists overseas are barbaric, all right. Just barbaric.
What sort of woman would choose this for her child? No doubt her daughter said 'Go ahead, Mom' but aren't adults supposed to be able to make better choices? Hard to believe.
As an aside, Pabst, I noticed you forgot to respond to my post to you in the other thread. This has been knwon to happen to the far right when it is pointed out that this woman would try to force a 14-year old child to carry a gang-rape induced pregnancy to term. Sudden onset of acute laryngitis. You, of course, probably just missed the post, even though you were around all that day right around that time and responded to all the other posts to you... : )
Yes, those religious extremists overseas are barbaric, all right. Just barbaric.
I don't know what you came here to debate or not. I write what I know and what I feel is relevant. You do the same, but try to stay civil because insults have a way of getting back at you.
Abe Lincoln was a Republican, it's a fact. Now, which of the two parties of today is closer to his ideals is up for debate - you say one thing and many others say the opposite. What else is new.
My post was about the evolution of human rights, not about religion per se. Btw, Judaism and Christianity never condoned slavary or capitalism or any other human social/political scheme. They address our inner world. "Love thy neighbor as thyself" should cover it all in terms of social relationships.
Would you please explain how you are using the verb to Condone
Is it not in the accepted way to:
- Excuse, overlook, or make allowances for; be lenient with
Or do you use the verb to Condone as meaning... to ignore the nasty bits.. selectively cherry pick the nice bits... and then surreptitiously pretend there are no bad bits?
The GOP has been the party of Lincoln in name only since they got rid of Eisenhower. Moving on ...
1 Timothy 6:1 "All who are under the yoke of slavery should consider their masters worthy of full respect, so that God's name and our teaching may not be slandered. 2 Those who have believing masters are not to show less respect for them because they are brothers. Instead, they are to serve them even better, because those who benefit from their service are believers, and dear to them. These are the things you are to teach and urge on them."
"Saint" Paul was more worried about public relations than about actual human rights. The Old Testament is just as evil.