Pain & Pleasure

The Upside of Being Downsized

One former Morgan Stanley investment banker, laid off this spring with more than $100,000 in cash-and-stock parting gifts, is planning to spend several weeks climbing mountains in exotic climes, an almost unimaginable luxury during his time at Morgan Stanley, which required him to cancel or postpone vacations on more than one occasion.

Yes, $100,000 is a lot of money for the investment banking crowd especially after Uncle Sam takes his cut. And now he can spend all the free time he has plus all that extra money he has been given on cool vacations. :p
 
ANGUISH OF 'STOCK' SPLITS

ANGUISH OF 'STOCK' SPLITS

DIVORCES SURGE AS WALL ST. WOES HIT COUPLES' SHOPPING SPREES & HAMPTON GETAWAYS

By SUSANNAH CAHALAN

Posted: 4:16 am
July 13, 2008

TWENTY years of marriage - and it collapsed just like the Dow.

"Cindy" and "Tom" met at a high school in the city and stayed together through thick and thin - attending colleges in different states and then different graduate schools.

Cindy (not her real name) wanted to be the city's best teacher; Tom set his sights on the lucrative investment-banking world.

A wedding was always in the cards for the seemingly perfect couple.

Tom became a bond trader at a household-name bank, working 60 hours a week and raking in as much as $1 million a year.

As Tom's star rose and his income spiked, Cindy quit teaching and focused on raising the couple's two young kids.

Then disaster struck.

The housing market collapsed. In December, Tom was laid off.

And Cindy simply turned to Tom and said, "Fix it."

Refusing to scale back, she booked a house in the Hamptons for this summer, splurged on shopping trips and continued the posh interior redecoration of their city home.

When Tom discovered Cindy had begun cheating on him since he was laid off, their marriage was about as stable as a hedge fund.

Three months later, with Tom still out of work, Cindy packed her bags and hired a divorce lawyer.

"I lost my family, lost my kids, lost my income, lost my identity," Tom told his divorce lawyer, Dawn Cardi, the founding partner at her Park Avenue firm.

So much for staying together through good times and bad.

City lawyers say "economic divorces" are skyrocketing as the stock market slumps, Wall Street jobs are cut and bonuses are banished.

Manhattan divorce lawyer Joshua Forman, whose firm handles several hundred divorces a year with many clients who work on Wall Street, said he's seen a 20 percent surge in divorce filings in the past six months.

"They have to cancel the country-club membership, no more expensive summer camps, cancel the three-week trip to Europe. It's hard to keep up with the Joneses when your job's in jeopardy. And it takes a toll on the marriage," Forman explained.

One of Forman's clients - who made more than $1 million a year at one of the city's largest financial firms and shared a fabulous, multimillion-dollar Manhattan apartment with his wife and two children - was let go after the bank downsized in late January.

Fights started to escalate over finances. He began complaining about her spending habits and gave her an ultimatum: Stop wasting money or get back to the work force. She refused.

Things came to a head when they couldn't afford to send their kids to their favorite, but exorbitantly priced, summer camp.

In June, they both approached attorneys and are taking steps toward divorce.

Similar stresses broke up Tom and Cindy. After five months of negotiations - with Cindy continuing to spend wildly and Tom's severance package running dry - a divorce settlement seems far off.

Fights like these are common these days, according to Alton Abramowitz, vice president of the Academy of Matrimonial Lawyers and a partner in a Manhattan firm, who said he's so overburdened with caseloads that he's had to hire a new lawyer.

When one Manhattan client's bonus, which made up the vast percentage of his income, is cut in half, questions started pouring in.

"Keep the country-club membership? Vacation in Europe? Lease the BMW?" Abramowitz recalled from conversations with his client.

It became too much - his client started internalizing what was happening at work and "stopped functioning well at home," he explained.

Divorce was the next step.

Peter Bodnar says his White Plains firm for divorces has seen a 20 to 25 percent "increase in interest," mainly from clients who work in "hedge funds and large brokerage houses."

Couples counselor Dr. DeAnsin Parker is so "extraordinarily busy" that she's had to wait-list prospective clients and, for the first time in her career, turn people away.

"It's the fault line that finally cracks," said Parker of the worsening economy. "It's the straw that broke the camel's back."

Many of her clients are refugees of the Bear Stearns collapse - one of whom booked an appointment after he lost $50 million in 24 hours.

"He had to grieve - there was enormous grief," Parker said. "He had problems figuring out how to explain it to his wife and children."

But it's not only the men who have to contend with the adjustment.

"These wives are accustomed to seeing [their husbands] as strong. But now they're weak and vulnerable," Parker said. "Women, typically, if they've lived one particular lifestyle, assume that their husband should just solve the problem.

"Many times women can't cope with the fact that a man can be emotional and fragile," she said.

Many times, these women will start comparing their husbands to other, more successful men, and adultery becomes an issue, Parker said.

"These people sincerely believe that their lives are over."

Additional reporting by Janon Fisher

scahalan@nypost.com

This one is golden. Let me just say that anyone who gets divorced because he loses the million dollar job is only all the more richer for it. :cool:
 
Wall Street Blues

The funny thing about getting laid off, having worked in this doom-and-gloom environment for the past couple of years, is that you don¡¯t know who the winners and the losers are. Obviously it¡¯s not good to lose your job. But for the guys still working in that kind of an environment, with all these people getting laid off, on the one hand there¡¯s an opportunity to move up and capitalize, and on the other hand it¡¯s: ¡°Well, I¡¯m still here and things still aren¡¯t good. All this stuff is going to get dropped in my lap.¡± So it¡¯s funny in that regard. Who¡¯s the winner, who¡¯s the loser? Even though it¡¯s always better to have a job, I guess.

What a champ huh? He loses his job and still feels that he came out on top. **Applause** for those who can believe that they win even when they lose. :)
 
They're running for their lives...

On bloomberg terminal job posts they all have the same exact resume.

200,000 financial employees in NYC. So that means 50,000 candidates flooding the labor market in a 20 mile radius of Manhattan in the next 104 weeks with the same exact resume.

M.I.T. ex-quant running around NYC handing out resumes in front of Schwab office. There is no hope for tier 2 degrees.
 
The whacking has not even begun in earnest and the pigs are already starting to squeal. In the last few months it has mostly been people between the age of 20-30 who have been shot, but with revenue down so much it will not be enough to take down costs. We are getting close to when the bonus pool is to be determined and if you have not made your number this year, you are most definitely out of the game. Ever since Bear Stearns collapsed, bankers have been running their minions thread bare as they pitch at every opportunity that exists. It is funny that the worse things become, the more horrible the mood is, the harder these guys will work just so that they can have the privilege of putting in more 80 hour weeks.

Give it a little more time we are going to be treated to a real pulling of hair and gnashing of teeth. No more Wall Street, no more pretending to be smart when they are not, no more trophy wife and expensive bling for the kids, no more walking around like they have the biggest proudest dicks in the world. It is bunny hop time down a slippery slope and into the rabbit-hole, down and down they go. :D
 
a lot of these clowns deserve it. Im tired of paying out the ass for gas to bailout a bunch of greedy and clueless morons.

Why would anyone want to hire any MIT quant types? So they can go blowup your HF or bank with there crappy risk management techniques
 
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