Pain & Pleasure

Quote from Brandonf:

Why in the world would you delight so much in the pain and misfortune of others who have nothing to do with your own success or failure? Its kinda sick.

Actually, comes across as kinda childish.
 
Quote from Brandonf:

Why in the world would you delight so much in the pain and misfortune of others who have nothing to do with your own success or failure? Its kinda sick.

Quote from cstfx:

Actually, comes across as kinda childish.

It is sick and childish, so what is your point? You guys have not decided to start your own morality vigilante here on ET have you? That would be great, would be hustlers want to be saintly.

I really do enjoy the spectacle that is unfolding and I am very certain that I am not alone. It is just that I prefer to be honest about it and instead of pretending that I do not find it enjoyable to watch cocksuckers get their comeuppance, I want to make this a little public celebration.

Have you any idea just how arrogant these muthafuckers really are? Most of them cannot tell their ass from their elbow but they will point to their $250,000 compensation and make you feel that they are better than you. For many, many of them, this is the end of the road as far as their Wall Street career is concerned. If they are lucky, maybe uncle Tommy at Corporation Nepotism can get them a cushy managerial position.

Time to grow up kids. This ain't the little leagues no more. Not everyone comes out a winner. And nobody, I mean NOBODY, gives a shit about how you feel.
 
This article talks more about the business and investing side. i.e. people in corporate finance and investment banking.

I wonder how the institutional traders and quants working in futures and options are doing....That is the road I might be headed down shortly....

RT
 
Turning a layoff into a career catalyst

By Brittany Hite | The Wall Street Journal
June 30, 2008

Nine months into her first job, Mary Wisniewski returned from a business trip to Switzerland in April -- and was laid off.

"It feels like I dreamed it up," she says. "I could understand being fired if I messed up, but I never would have thought I'd get laid off."

As employers look to shed workers in a struggling economy, Wisniewski and other recent college graduates are finding their jobs are over just as they have begun.

Job counselors say an early layoff need not be career damaging. They encourage recent graduates not to take layoffs personally, to deal with the issue honestly and to quickly begin looking for another job.

"Getting let go is never a good thing, but it's not nearly the black mark on your resume it was 10, 15 or 20 years ago," says Brad Karsh, president and founder of JobBound, which helps college students and recent graduates land their first jobs. "It happens to the best of us, and it's beyond your control."

Karsh says those who have been laid off should reassess their situation and try to use the layoff as a catalyst for finding a more suitable job. He recommends being honest when interviewing for subsequent jobs, adding that most employers will understand, as long as they are told the truth. "That early in your career, it couldn't have been much of your fault," Karsh says.

Marcia Harris, director of University Career Services at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, urges those laid off to obtain a letter of recommendation before leaving the company, explaining what happened and why, indicating the employee wasn't at fault.

Harris says recent graduates may have to take temporary, freelance or part-time positions to pay the bills while they seek another full-time job. Most won't have big savings cushions, and many will still be repaying student loans or the costs of furnishing an apartment.

Recent graduates who find themselves laid off should check with their loan providers; many can help work out a deferral of or reduction in payment during times of distress.

Robert Graber, chief executive of Wallstjobs.com, a financial-services recruiting source, says recent graduates who landed their first job through campus recruiting will have to learn how to job hunt. "They may have to be more proactive," he says.

Graber encourages those in the financial sector to consider companies beyond the brand names, such as smaller boutique firms and hedge funds, including those in smaller cities.

He recommends not taking the summer off, noting that looking for a job can be a full-time endeavor itself. Graber says job-seekers should do as much networking as possible, through talking with friends and associates, attending events, and participating in alumni clubs and nonprofit groups. Ms. Harris says many college career centers offer services to alumni free of charge or for a small fee.

Wisniewski, a Michigan native who graduated from Pepperdine University last year and moved to New York for a job as an editor at a jewelry-industry magazine, has found it tough to move on in a sluggish economy. She has interviewed with a handful of companies, including one in Kentucky that would require her to move again. "I don't want to leave New York, but I might have to," she says.

She says she worries because her short job tenure often comes up during interviews. "I don't want it to be a huge red flag," she says. She has considered omitting the nine-month stint from her resume, but is concerned that it will make her seem too inexperienced.

Wisniewski says that she has been advised that her layoff shouldn't be a problem once she explains it, as many hiring managers expect to see these situations in a poor economy. "Losing your job isn't the end of the world of course, but it's still like getting a black eye," she says.

Professionals urge people who have been laid off not to lose perspective, and to try to grow from the experience. That was the case for Gerry Wilson, who says getting laid off turned out to be a good thing.

Wilson graduated from Princeton in 2000 and took a job with MicroStrategy Inc., an Internet software company. After two months training at company headquarters in Virginia, he headed to New York to begin work. The first day, he was told that his consultant position was being eliminated.

Wilson parlayed his expertise with MicroStrategy's software into another consulting position, making nearly double what his salary would have been. He later started consulting on his own and saved enough money to attend business school. There, he developed a plan for his own business, yoonew inc., an online exchange that lets sports fans bet on a shot at Super Bowl or World Series tickets, long before the event. He raised funding from angel investors and now runs yoonew.

"All I have done has been because I was laid off on my first day," he says.

Just read this wonderful article, getting laid off is good for you. Some of you think that I am such a sadist but look at what the gods have proclaimed from Mount Zournal? Things like "consider companies beyond the brand names, such as smaller boutique firms and hedge funds, including those in smaller cities." And obviously only sweethearts will tell you that you should "use the layoff as a catalyst for finding a more suitable job." Or that you should "try to grow from the experience."

If you want to think that I am not a good human being, I might be inclined to agree. But you have got to admit, at least I do not lie to you. :cool:
 
SAC's Bad News for Bankers

Wall Street Journal

Giant Hedge Fund Cuts
Its Fixed-Income Business

SAC Capital, the giant Greenwich, Conn., hedge fund, has cut its fixed-income business down to the basics. For out-of-work bankers hoping that hedge funds will snap them up, it is an ominous sign.

Chunks of the credit markets are intractably seized up -- or, worse, discredited. Meanwhile, counterparties are unwilling to lend enough to make credit trading profitable. Activity is withering on the buy-side as well as the sell-side.

The $16 billion fund run by Steven Cohen has recently parted ways with many of its credit specialists, choosing to narrow its fixed-income focus. It is true that SAC's roots are in long-short equities trading -- betting on both rising and falling stock prices -- perhaps giving it a preference for very active, transparent markets.

But the move still reflects trends that are affecting the hedge-fund community at large.

A few hedge funds have made killings on the credit crunch -- Paulson & Co., for example, thanks to its huge bet against subprime-mortgage-backed securities.

Others have struggled. Indexes of the performance of hedge fund fixed-income strategies were weak to negative last year -- when other strategies mostly did much better -- and have been similarly disappointing this year, a period that has admittedly been difficult across the board for the average fund.

Thinly traded credit markets are a problem for fast-moving hedge funds. And it is only those able to get deep into the details that can now stomach battered structured-finance markets.

Perhaps most important, funds are struggling to borrow enough to amplify returns on winning bets into something big enough to impress investors, after the funds' hefty fees. Banks and their prime-brokerage arms, which process and finance trades for big clients, are pulling in their horns -- and they are particularly wary of financing credit bets.

Some jobless credit bankers might still hope they can cross the street to still-healthy hedge funds. After all, most funds haven't taken losses as significant as those suffered by banks, and some are opening funds targeting distressed opportunities.

But SAC's story isn't good news for most would-be hedgies. While the fund was never a credit specialist, it shows how low levels of credit-related activity, a shortage of profit opportunities and scarce leverage are slowing many hedge funds down, too.

Hehehehe... :D
 
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