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An email exchange that Cutten and me had over the weekend. (I'm sure he won't mind)
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Pa(b)st Prime
01-19-08 01:42 PM
Registered: Oct 2006
Posts: 2036
Re: Your current thoughts on the S&P
I'll post in my journal but I'll discuss privately some of my work. The reason I sold the rally in December was there were two measurements in SPX off the Nov low that were the same size as moves leading to the last stages of both the 1987 and 1998 pre crash bull swings. I had 100% confidence the market would stop at 1511ish and get creamed in January. Like you I pay VERY close attention to sentiment (I check p/c's hourly) and while I said a week ago that "fading the fade was the fade" even I was surprised by the lack of bounce.
Here's the deal. If Friday's lows break we're going to 1247 SPX immediately. Perhaps even Tuesday. These lows Friday are so frickin' important to my charts that a penetration will be devastating. For example this break from Oct is now the same distance as 1998 Jul-Oct. Big stuff. There's several other counts just like this. A key one is from 2000. The stops below these levels are MASSIVE. I won't buy the market (although like an a-hole I was caught long Thursday in the 1440's) until SPX trades 1219. Sentiment, vix, cash on sidelines, low p/e's are MEANINGLESS when the market's in crash mode. Whether Friday's lows provide anything more than the bounce they caused intra day, I don't know. I suspect we're plunging. I detect little "crash" sentiment and a lot of "buying right here" type shit on various boards. I'm sure the thinking is "what's my risk buying a 200pt pullback?'" Cutten I won't even guarantee that after we trade 1220 that the mega bounce is able bring us back any higher than these levels. IMO, it's over.
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Cutten wrote on 01-19-08 12:52 PM:
Just thought I'd get your opinions on this. Right now my gut says we are very close to a bottom and a big subsequent rally. One thing I was waiting for was a big panic down day, as in August. However, after Friday's performance I am not sure if we will actually get one. If ever there was going to be a big puke down, yesterday should have been ideal conditions for it - the market sold off despite the Bush plan (down 45 pts from the open), it was an expiration day, VIX had been low recently, long holiday weekend etc. I had contingency planned for a *rally* more than I had for a damp squib of a 1% down day I'm starting to think maybe the reason it didn't sell off was simply because there are too many bears & people on the sidelines, and the market is just plain sold out.
Apart from the lack of "panic"/high VIX signal, everything else here seems bullish - lots of worries around, market is down a lot from the highs, S&P is way below the 200 day MA, cash is being pumped into the system and further rate cuts likely, the financials are starting to pick up a bid and some corporate activity.
Was wondering if you had any thoughts on this? I made a post to your thread on similar lines:
http://elitetrader.com/vb/showthrea...551#post1755551
Let me know what you think!
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