Pabst's Blue Ribbon Trades

Great post Curtis. Thanks.

I think one of the hardest things to understand about this business is that effort doesn't necessarily have any direct relationship to long term profitability.

:)

(btw, I am ordering your book)


Quote from Cutten:

I know it's easy to say in hindsight, but it sounds like you are pushing too hard with average or difficult trades. Big size is best reserved for those rare occasions where everything lines up in your favour e.g. you have a truly contrarian position, price action is strongly in your favour, and the market tone keeps confirming your position (e.g. if you are short bonds, they should rally sluggishly on bull news, but break hard on bear news...and drift lower on no news). As soon as the trade becomes hard or risky, you gotta cut back.

One good point that Cramer made is "avoid battlegrounds". Tough trades where 2 points of view are equally strongly held, and the market ebbs and flows between them. For example stocks this summer are a big fight between the recession camp and the cheap valuation/low rates/falling dollar camp. Is it better to bet massively on who is gonna win that one? Or to stand aside and try to pick up some profits by fading whenever one camp gets to an extreme.

The really good trades usually don't have to be forced (at least not once they get momentum behind them; if you are early then it is different). I'd suggest trying conservative trading on modest size, trying to "put beans in bags", just bide your time and grind out some income. Wait for the 2-5 trades per year where everything is set up just right, then get in and build up size by pyramiding as the market action confirms your view whilst sentiment stays sceptical. Let the market action, rather than your own opinions, determine when you trade size.

Looking at this year, there were only really a few great themes to play. Long oil from $50, short housing, long wheat, buying stocks (esp emerging markets) after the Feb mini-panic, long China, and long stock volatility since summer. If you look at them, one thing most had in common was that they were not difficult trades to hold onto once they got going. Only China stocks had any big scary corrections to fake you out. And the market was fairly complacent/sceptical of each one turning out the way it did.

By contrast, lots of people are bearish on bonds. That doesn't mean they won't go down, but it does mean there is an inherent bid simply due to the crowded nature of the short position. That suggests it is better to play on limited size or with limited risk (options/spreads) and be demanding about entry price, and not too greedy on exit. It won't be a forgiving trade like the ones listed above. So I'd recommend playing more conservative until you find another trade where all the ducks are lined up, then work on milking that for all you can. You got on the grains early - did you trade them as aggressively and with the size that you used in your bond short?
 
Quote from Optionpro007:

Great post Curtis. Thanks.

I think one of the hardest things to understand about this business is that effort doesn't necessarily have any direct relationship to long term profitability.

:)

(btw, I am ordering your book)

I think you've mixed me up with "inflector"/Curtis Faith - I don't have any book out, and I'm just a regular trader.
 
Quote from Cutten:

I think you've mixed me up with "inflector"/Curtis Faith - I don't have any book out, and I'm just a regular trader.

Don't sell your self short. You're one very gifted thinker.
 
What I dont understand about fx and bonds is the lack of volatility priced into a potential dollar move.

Which leads me to believe either that there is a chance the dollar is going rebound perhaps because the credit crisis returns.

Remember 2002-3 thats when things in fx and bond land were wild and the dollar was really crappy. Sentiment doesnt look nearly as bad right now. Maybe its because there is so much active currency manipulation.
 
Quote from Cutten:

I think you've mixed me up with "inflector"/Curtis Faith - I don't have any book out, and I'm just a regular trader.

Apologize to you, my bad.

Still, great post !

p.s. Now I am left with the question, should I cancel the order...:D
 
Quote from Optionpro007:

Apologize to you, my bad.

Still, great post !

p.s. Now I am left with the question, should I cancel the order...:D

IMO all books written by people who have traded for a living should be read. Even the "bad" ones usually have 1 or 2 good ideas that you can benefit from.
 
Pabst, with your permission, i'd like to try to post a few "blue ribbon" trades I have this week on your forum.

I have a good one for today, and I will post it close to the close of trading. I would love to hear others thoughts after I post it, and before the end of the trading day!

Thanks and good luck!
 
Quote from Bob Rowshan:

Pabst, with your permission, i'd like to try to post a few "blue ribbon" trades I have this week on your forum.

I have a good one for today, and I will post it close to the close of trading. I would love to hear others thoughts after I post it, and before the end of the trading day!

Thanks and good luck!

Certainly my good friend.

Sorry for not updating my journal but other than building a short position in the index I've been pretty quiet all month. I've taken a pretty nice hit on some Oct put spreads and yesterday I rolled into Nov. I paid 13.20 (took Atticus's advice and just paid the offer rather than miss the trade) on the SP 500 Nov 1530-1470.

I may be nuts (a given) but I see stocks breaking 25% over the next few months.
 
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