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Overwhelming Majority Of Americans Support Gov't Health Care Even If Taxes Rise
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Kind of like almost everyone.
Chronic illness: time for Americans to become educated on health and make lifestyle changes:
A Johns Hopkins study has revealed:
125 million people have a chronic illness
60 million others have multiple chronic conditions
Chronic illnesses cost $510 billion annually
chronic illness accounts for 77% of direct medical expenditures in the US
leads to 70% of all U.S. deaths in America
Human genetics cannot evolve in a few decades to adapt to such an extreme diet, lifestyle, and environment.
Modern medicine can do little for chronic illness as it is designed for acute care not chronic illness.
I've had a chronic illness for the last 12 years most likely from overwork, not enough sleep and rest, chemical exposure and bad diet. The last medical doctor that I saw a couple years ago told me, "You know as well as I do that there's nothing I can do for you."
A naturopath -natural healer- has really helped me start getting things turned around. I have talked to several of her patients that were given a few months to live by their MDs and they have been given a second chance of life.
A Johns Hopkins study has revealed:
125 million people have a chronic illness
60 million others have multiple chronic conditions
Chronic illnesses cost $510 billion annually
chronic illness accounts for 77% of direct medical expenditures in the US
leads to 70% of all U.S. deaths in America
Human genetics cannot evolve in a few decades to adapt to such an extreme diet, lifestyle, and environment.
Modern medicine can do little for chronic illness as it is designed for acute care not chronic illness.
I've had a chronic illness for the last 12 years most likely from overwork, not enough sleep and rest, chemical exposure and bad diet. The last medical doctor that I saw a couple years ago told me, "You know as well as I do that there's nothing I can do for you."
A naturopath -natural healer- has really helped me start getting things turned around. I have talked to several of her patients that were given a few months to live by their MDs and they have been given a second chance of life.
Quote from pamjoey:
It really doesnt matter to me, one way or the other. But, something needs to done about the rising costs of health care. Doctors, hospital, pharmacies, insurance companies, etc....
The prices are just as bad as stealing.
I had full coverage insurance, up until about 18 months ago, when my insurance company, refused to pay $9000, in hospital, and doctor bills. I paid my co-pay, and from there it is a long story as to how they refused to pay. But in the end, the doctors and hospital, wanted me to pay. The yelled, screamed, threaten to sue, went to collection agencies, and so on.....
I never have paid them, and dont ever intend to. There is nothing they can do, besides, put it on your credit report. After talking to several people in the credit industry, and them telling me, that they dont even consider medical stuff on credit reports, I decided to stand up to the thieves. Actually, it was before talking to credit people, that I decided I wasnt going to pay. It just made me feel better, that they wasnt much they could do.
After about 1 year, all the lettters and threats stopped.
My advice, if you feel cheated by the medical community, is dont pay them. There is little they can do.
I was in the hospital, for 4 hours. The bill--- over $9000
http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/SavingandDebt/ManageDebt/HowToNotPayyourBills.aspx
According to the article above, the collections agency can sue or garnish your wages for unpaid debts. Did that not happen to you?
Quote from NasdaqTrader:
http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/SavingandDebt/ManageDebt/HowToNotPayyourBills.aspx
According to the article above, the collections agency can sue or garnish your wages for unpaid debts. Did that not happen to you?
No, they never did sue or garnish my wages. They did threaten many times. They tried to intimadate me, scare me, etc....
The things "the powers that be" usually try to do. But having been self employed for 18 years, I had seen this type of thing many times before.
I would have paid, if I felt I owed it, but I did have full coverage health benefits, and the insurance company refused to pay.
I believe that most of these collection agencies know, they have little chance of getting the money, if you are not willing to pay, regardless of what ever the court might say. As my attorney once said, during a court case I was involved in, "winning a case is one thing, collecting the judgement is another.
I suppose, they may not have tried to garnish my wages, because of my self employment, but I am not sure.
The bottom line to me is: Pay it, if you owe it, but if you feel you have been wronged, STAND UP TO THESE CROOKS!
Here is an idea. Why not try this. Anyone that wants to opt in for a universal health care plan by the government gets a tax increase. Those that don't opt in, do not. In other words, if I don't want it, I don't have to pay for it. Fair enough? I'm curious what the left has to say about that? Discuss....
Quote from Maverick74:
Here is an idea. Why not try this. Anyone that wants to opt in for a universal health care plan by the government gets a tax increase. Those that don't opt in, do not. In other words, if I don't want it, I don't have to pay for it. Fair enough? I'm curious what the left has to say about that? Discuss....
Do the same thing with Social Security and I will opt out of both in a heartbeat.
Also, I've mentioned this before on previous health care threads. Say we do have a universal healthcare program. I'm all for it under a few conditions. All smokers, drug users and anyone that is obese has to qualify for a separately funded program.
If you want free healthcare, you have to at least meet the government half way and take care of yourself. You can't have it both ways. You can't be smoking, drinking, eating double cheeseburgers, injecting and get free healthcare.
If you want free healthcare, you have to at least meet the government half way and take care of yourself. You can't have it both ways. You can't be smoking, drinking, eating double cheeseburgers, injecting and get free healthcare.
Overwhelming Majority Of Americans Support Anything Free from the Gov't Even If Taxes Rise
This is news ?
... Already long ago, from when we sold our vote to no man,
the People have abdicated our duties; for the People who once upon a time
handed out military command, high civil office, legions - everything, now
restrains itself and anxiously hopes for just two things:
bread and circuses
This is news ?
... Already long ago, from when we sold our vote to no man,
the People have abdicated our duties; for the People who once upon a time
handed out military command, high civil office, legions - everything, now
restrains itself and anxiously hopes for just two things:
bread and circuses
Quote from pamjoey:
No, they never did sue or garnish my wages. They did threaten many times. They tried to intimadate me, scare me, etc....
The things "the powers that be" usually try to do. But having been self employed for 18 years, I had seen this type of thing many times before.
I would have paid, if I felt I owed it, but I did have full coverage health benefits, and the insurance company refused to pay.
I believe that most of these collection agencies know, they have little chance of getting the money, if you are not willing to pay, regardless of what ever the court might say. As my attorney once said, during a court case I was involved in, "winning a case is one thing, collecting the judgement is another.
I suppose, they may not have tried to garnish my wages, because of my self employment, but I am not sure.
The bottom line to me is: Pay it, if you owe it, but if you feel you have been wronged, STAND UP TO THESE CROOKS!
If you lose a court case and are required to pay money, what can happen or what's the worst that can happen if you refuse to pay the winning party?