Over 120 retired US generals sign letter slamming Biden govt, say nation in fight against ‘socialism

You have very selective memory on this.. Shall we go back to the thread where you got it all wrong...

Nice try... A plus for effort.

Supreme Court Rules Against California Ban On In-Person ...
https://www.npr.org › 2021/02/06 › supreme-court-rules-...


Feb 6, 2021 — Supreme Court Rules Against Calif., Doubles Down On Religious Rights ... Court said California can no longer continue with a ban on indoor church ... In a concurring opinion, Chief Justice John Roberts wrote that federal ...



Supreme Court's Ruling Blocking Cuomo's Covid-19 Order ...
https://www.wsj.com › articles › supreme-courts-ruling-bl...


Nov 26, 2020 — Andrew Cuomo said the Supreme Court decision barring Covid-19 curbs on ... In the U.S., religious gatherings have turned into superspreader events in ... in our case, no worship at all, when the gathering is religious,” Mr. Staver said. ... City's lockdown in March, would likely warrant the closing of churches.

Ahh my bad I thought you were referring to Michigan case..

Anyway this was individual per Governor order, this was not a country wide attack on Constitutional rights. I specifically said that the order to ban indoor outright without having capacity % or social distancing was over reaching anyway. SO I agreed with you.

But for dementia generals to claim there is some attack on the Constitution under Biden is bullshit because you are citing a case under TRUMP and it was a specific governor, not the federal government.

So my original point still stands. the generals are just rambling on with bullshit.

China was a problem before Trump took office and nothing has changed. In fact, to get back at China, trumptard taxed Americans and claimed China was paying for it... just like he claimed Mexico paid for the wall.

Only idiots fell for that and apparently those generals did too... sad when the mind goes.
 
While I agree the Federal Govt did not promulgate a nation wideover reach...
I think it was precisely because Trump was in control of the executive Branch and not Biden..

Imagine now long we would have had to endure Biden's fears.
He might have tried to send Troops into Texas and Florida to enforce his decrees.

Many of the states and particularly many Governors shat all over our constitutional rights.
They took away our feedoms regardless of what the data was showing. .

CA and Michigan were just 2 examples offenders.
 
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...orse-joe-biden-blast-donald-trump/3503917001/


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WASHINGTON – Nearly 500 generals, admirals and former national security officials from both parties endorsed former Vice President Joe Biden on Thursday, and blasted President Donald Trump as "not equal" to the challenges of the job in a letter released Thursday.

The letter, signed by 489 members of the group called the National Security Leaders for Biden, includes former Obama administration Defense Secretaries Ash Carter, Chuck Hagel and Leon Panetta, along with former Navy Secretary and NASA administrator Sean O'Keefe, who served under both former Presidents George H.W. and George W. Bush. Among the retired senior officers is Air Force Gen. Paul Selva, who until last year was the vice chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff under Trump.

REPUBLICANS:Former governors, congressmen, Trump administration staffers supporting Biden

The signature of a senior official like Selva, with recent, relevant experience advising the Trump White House as the military's second-highest ranking officer, indicates alarm about Trump's fitness as commander in chief, said Michael O'Hanlon, a military analyst at the Brookings Institution. O'Hanlon pointed to revelations in Bob Woodward's new book "Rage" that showed the United States and North Korea were dangerously close to war in 2017. Trump's erratic, "seat of the pants" decision-making has rattled senior military and civilian officials, he said
And what year was that from?
 
You highlighting what happened in one state which the supreme court of that state, NOT THE U.S. SUPREME COURT, overturned only because of PROCEDURE not because it was wrong to do. You need to read the case closer.

So.......the U.S. Constitution was not under attack then if it was a State issue...

Your history teacher is crying for your lack of knowledge of State v. Federal


nice try though... B+ for effort. Turn off FOX news.
Your grasp on reality is extremely loose at best.
 
Open Letter from Retired Generals and Admirals

Our Nation is in deep peril. We are in a fight for our survival as a Constitutional Republic like no other time since our founding in 1776. The conflict is between supporters of Socialism and Marxism vs. supporters of Constitutional freedom and liberty.

During the 2020 election an “Open Letter from Senior Military Leaders” was signed by 317 retired Generals and Admirals and, it said the 2020 election could be the most important election since our country was founded. “With the Democrat Party welcoming Socialists and Marxists, our historic way of life is at stake.” Unfortunately, that statement’s truth was quickly revealed, beginning with the election process itself.

Without fair and honest elections that accurately reflect the “will of the people” our Constitutional Republic is lost. Election integrity demands insuring there is one legal vote cast and counted per citizen. Legal votes are identified by State Legislature’s approved controls using government IDs, verified signatures, etc. Today, many are calling such commonsense controls “racist” in an attempt to avoid having fair and honest elections. Using racial terms to suppress proof of eligibility is itself a tyrannical intimidation tactic. Additionally, the “Rule of Law” must be enforced in our election processes to ensure integrity. The FBI and Supreme Court must act swiftly when election irregularities are surfaced and not ignore them as was done in 2020. Finally, H.R.1 & S.1, (if passed), would destroy election fairness and allow Democrats to forever remain in power violating our Constitution and ending our Representative Republic.

Aside from the election, the Current Administration has launched a full-blown assault on our Constitutional rights in a dictatorial manner, bypassing the Congress, with more than 50 Executive Orders quickly signed, many reversing the previous Administration’s effective policies and regulations. Moreover, population control actions such as excessive lockdowns, school and business closures, and most alarming, censorship of written and verbal expression are all direct assaults on our fundamental Rights. We must support and hold accountable politicians who will act to counter Socialism, Marxism and Progressivism, support our Constitutional Republic, and insist on fiscally responsible governing while focusing on all Americans, especially the middle class, not special interest or extremist groups which are used to divide us into warring factions.

Additional National Security Issues and Actions:

• Open borders jeopardize national security by increasing human trafficking, drug cartels, terrorists entry, health/CV19 dangers, and humanitarian crises. Illegals are flooding our Country bringing high economic costs, crime, lowering wages, and illegal voting in some states. We must reestablish border controls and continue building the wall while supporting our dedicated border control personnel. Sovereign nations must have controlled borders.

• China is the greatest external threat to America. Establishing cooperative relations with the Chinese Communist Party emboldens them to continue progress toward world domination, militarily, economically, politically and technologically. We must impose more sanctions and restrictions to impede their world domination goal and protect America’s interests. • The free flow of information is critical to the security of our Republic, as illustrated by freedom of speech and the press being in the 1st Amendment of our Constitution. Censoring speech and expression, distorting speech, spreading disinformation by government officials, private entities, and the media is a method to suppress the free flow of information, a tyrannical technique used in closed societies. We must counter this on all fronts beginning with removing Section 230 protection from big tech.

• Re-engaging in the flawed Iran Nuclear Deal would result in Iran acquiring nuclear weapons along with the means to deliver them, thereby upsetting Mideast peace initiatives and aiding a terrorist nation whose slogans and goals include “death to America” and “death to Israel” . We must resist the new China/Iran agreement and not support the Iran Nuclear Deal. In addition, continue with the Mideast peace initiatives, the “Abraham Accords,” and support for Israel.

• Stopping the Keystone Pipeline eliminates our recently established energy independence and causes us to be energy dependent on nations not friendly to us, while eliminating valuable US jobs. We must open the Keystone Pipeline and regain our energy independence for national security and economic reasons.

• Using the U.S. military as political pawns with thousands of troops deployed around the U.S. Capitol Building, patrolling fences guarding against a non-existent threat, along with forcing Politically Correct policies like the divisive critical race theory into the military at the expense of the War Fighting Mission, seriously degrades readiness to fight and win our Nation’s wars, creating a major national security issue. We must support our Military and Vets; focus on war fighting, eliminate the corrosive infusion of Political Correctness into our military which damages morale and war fighting cohesion.

• The “Rule of Law” is fundamental to our Republic and security. Anarchy as seen in certain cities cannot be tolerated. We must support our law enforcement personnel and insist that DAs, our courts, and the DOJ enforce the law equally, fairly, and consistently toward all.

• The mental and physical condition of the Commander in Chief cannot be ignored. He must be able to quickly make accurate national security decisions involving life and limb anywhere, day or night. Recent Democrat leadership’s inquiries about nuclear code procedures sends a dangerous national security signal to nuclear armed adversaries, raising the question about who is in charge. We must always have an unquestionable chain of command.

Under a Democrat Congress and the Current Administration, our Country has taken a hard left turn toward Socialism and a Marxist form of tyrannical government which must be countered now by electing congressional and presidential candidates who will always act to defend our Constitutional Republic. The survival of our Nation and its cherished freedoms, liberty, and historic values are at stake. We urge all citizens to get involved now at the local, state and/or national level to elect political representatives who will act to Save America, our Constitutional Republic, and hold those currently in office accountable. The “will of the people” must be heard and followed.

Signed by:

  1. RADM Ernest B. Acklin, USCG, ret.
  2. MG Joseph T. Anderson, USMC, ret.
  3. RADM Philip Anselmo, USN, ret.
  4. MG Joseph Arbuckle, USA, ret.
  5. BG John Arick, USMC, ret.
  6. RADM Jon W. Bayless, Jr. USN, ret.
  7. RDML James Best, USN, ret.
  8. BG Charles Bishop, USAF, ret.
  9. BG William A. Bloomer, USMC, ret.
  10. BG Donald Bolduc, USA, ret.
  11. LTG William G. Boykin, USA, ret.
  12. MG Edward R. Bracken, USAF, ret.
  13. MG Patrick H. Brady, MOH, USA, ret.
  14. VADM Edward S. Briggs, USN, ret.
  15. LTG Richard “Tex’ Brown III USAF, ret.
  16. BG Frank Bruno, USAF, ret.
  17. VADM Toney M. Bucchi, USN, ret.
  18. RADM John T. Byrd, USN, ret.
  19. BG Jimmy Cash, USAF, ret.
  20. LTG Dennis D. Cavin, USA, ret.
  21. LTG James E. Chambers, USAF, ret. 22. MG Carroll D. Childers, USA, ret.
  22. BG Clifton C. “Tip” Clark, USAF, ret.
  23. VADM Ed Clexton, USN, ret.
  24. MG Jay Closner, USAF, ret
  25. MG Tommy F. Crawford, USAF, ret.
  26. MG Robert E. Dempsey, USAF, ret.
  27. BG Phillip Drew, USAF, ret.
  28. MG Neil L. Eddins, USAF, ret.
  29. RADM Ernest Elliot, USN, ret.
  30. BG Jerome V. Foust, USA, ret.
  31. BG Jimmy E. Fowler, USA, ret.
  32. RADMU J. Cameron Fraser, USN, ret.
  33. MG John T. Furlow, USA, ret.
  34. MG Timothy F. Ghormley, USMC, ret.
  35. MG Francis C. Gideon, USAF, ret.
  36. MG Lee V. Greer, USAF, ret.
  37. RDML Michael R. Groothousen, Sr., USN, ret.
  38. BG John Grueser, USAF, ret.
  39. MG Ken Hagemann, USAF, ret.
  40. BG Norman Ham, USAF, ret.
  41. VADM William Hancock, USN, ret.
  42. LTG Henry J. Hatch, USA, ret.
  43. BG James M. Hesson, USA, ret.
  44. MG Bill Hobgood, USA, ret. 46. BG Stanislaus J. Hoey, USA, ret.
  45. MG Bob Hollingsworth, USMC, ret.
  46. MG Jerry D. Holmes, USAF, ret.
  47. MG Clinton V. Horn, USAF, ret.
  48. LTG Joseph E. Hurd, USAF, ret.
  49. VADM Paul Ilg, USN, ret.
  50. MG T. Irby, USA, ret.
  51. LTG Ronald Iverson, USAF, ret.
  52. RADM (L) Grady L. Jackson
  53. MG William K. James, USAF, ret.
  54. LTG James H. Johnson, Jr. USA, ret.
  55. ADM. Jerome L. Johnson, USN, ret.
  56. BG Charles Jones, USAF, ret.
  57. BG Robert R. Jordan, USA, ret.
  58. BG Jack H. Kotter, USA, ret.
  59. MG Anthony R. Kropp, USA, ret.
  60. RADM Chuck Kubic, USN, ret.
  61. BG Jerry L. Laws, USA, ret.
  62. BG Douglas E. Lee, USA, ret.
  63. MG Vernon B. Lewis, USA, ret.
  64. MG Thomas G. Lightner, USA, ret.
  65. MG James E. Livingston, USMC, ret. MOH
  66. MG John D. Logeman, USAF, ret.
  67. MG Jarvis Lynch, USMC, ret. 70. LTG Fred McCorkle, USMC, ret.
  68. MG Don McGregor, USAF, ret.
  69. LTG Thomas McInerney, USAF, ret.
  70. RADM John H. McKinley, USN, ret.
  71. BG Michael P. McRaney, USAF, ret.
  72. BG Ronald S. Mangum, USA, ret.
  73. BG James M. Mead, USMC, ret.
  74. BG Joe Mensching, USAF, ret.
  75. RADM W. F. Merlin, USCG, ret.
  76. RADM (L) Mark Milliken, USN, ret.
  77. MG John F. Miller, USAF, ret.
  78. RADM Ralph M. Mitchell, Jr. USN, ret.
  79. MG Paul Mock, USA. ret.
  80. BG Daniel I. Montgomery, USA, ret.,
  81. RADM John A. Moriarty, USN, ret.,
  82. RADM David R. Morris, USN, ret.
  83. RADM Bill Newman, USN, ret.
  84. BG Joe Oder, USA, ret.
  85. MG O’Mara, USAF, ret.
  86. MG Joe S. Owens, USA, ret.
  87. VADM Jimmy Pappas, USN, ret.
  88. LTG Garry L. Parks, USMC, ret.
  89. RADM Russ Penniman, RADM, USN, ret.
  90. RADM Leonard F. Picotte, ret. 94. VADM John Poindexter, USN, ret.
  91. RADM Ronald Polant, USCG, ret.
  92. MG Greg Power, USAF, ret.
  93. RDM Brian Prindle, USN, ret.
  94. RADM J.J. Quinn, USN, ret.
  95. LTG Clifford H. Rees, Jr. USAF, ret.
  96. RADM Norman T. Saunders, USCG, ret.
  97. MG Richard V. Secord, USAF, ret.
  98. RADM William R. Schmidt, USN, ret.
  99. LTG Hubert Smith, USA, ret.
  100. MG James N. Stewart, USAF, ret.
  101. RADM Thomas Stone, USN., ret.
  102. BG Joseph S. Stringham, USA, ret.
  103. MG Michael Sullivan, USMC, ret.
  104. RADM (U) Jeremy Taylor, USN, ret.
  105. LTG David Teal, USAF, ret.
  106. VADM Howard B. Thorsen, USCG, ret.
  107. RADM Robert P. Tiernan, USN, ret.
  108. LTG Garry Trexler, USAF, ret.
  109. BG James T. Turlington, M.D., USAF, ret.
  110. BG Richard J. Valente, USA ret.
  111. MG Paul Vallely, USA, ret.
  112. MG Russell L. Violett, USAF, ret.
  113. BG George H. Walker, Jr. USAR Corp of Engineers, ret. 118. MG Kenneth Weir, USMCR, ret.
  114. BG William O. Welch, USAF, ret.
  115. MG John M. White, USAF, ret.
  116. MG Geoffrey P. Wiedeman, JR. USAF, ret.
  117. MG Richard O. Wightman, Jr., USA, ret.
  118. RADM Denny Wisely, USN, ret.
  119. LTG John Woodward, USAF, ret.

Hopefully you remember that at the time of the Civil War...most of the U.S. military generals had graduated from places like West Point Military Academy. For example, General Lee and General Grant were both West Point Graduates although General Lee attended West Point many years prior to General Grant.

It was almost an even split the number of West Point Graduates that fought for the North and the South...some classmates and relatives even fought against each other.

My point, its very not unusual as in its very common for retired military leaders to pen their support for a President they support or do not support.

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WASHINGTON — More than 200 retired generals and admirals endorsed Joe Biden for president in a letter published Thursday, saying he had the character and judgment to serve as commander-in-chief instead of President Donald Trump, who has failed "to meet challenges large or small."

Some of the officers who signed the letter supporting Biden had retired only in the past few years, including Air Force Gen. Paul Selva, who served as vice chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff under Trump before he retired in August 2019; Vice Adm. Gardner Howe, a Navy SEAL leader who also retired last year; and retired Adm. Paul Zukunft, who oversaw the Coast Guard until 2018....

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Just as important, its very common for an active duty General, reservist General to support their current Commander in Chief and then change their support upon retirement. Usually, many Generals pen their letters after the United States has a different foreign policy that the Generals disapprove of (e.g. withdrawals from a War / Conflict).

Personally, as a veteran and former officer that was once married to a West Point Graduate (mother of my children)...
  • It's more telling when Active Duty Generals change their opinion about their Commander in Chief and then goes public about such while he's still Commander in Chief.
Remember this, one of the fastest way to divide a country and possibly create a Civil War is when Military Generals become political instead of worrying about the enemy abroad. Another way to divide a country is when a Commander in Chief does not take a health crisis / humanitarian crisis seriously or blames it on a political opponent that's not Commander in Chief.

In 20 years of writing about the military, I have never heard officers in high positions express such alarm about a president. Trump’s pronouncements and orders have already risked catastrophic and unnecessary wars in the Middle East and Asia, and have created severe problems for field commanders engaged in combat operations. Frequently caught unawares by Trump’s statements, senior military officers have scrambled, in their aftermath, to steer the country away from tragedy.... @ https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/11/military-officers-trump/598360/

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Open Letter from Retired Generals and Admirals

Our Nation is in deep peril. We are in a fight for our survival as a Constitutional Republic like no other time since our founding in 1776. The conflict is between supporters of Socialism and Marxism vs. supporters of Constitutional freedom and liberty.

During the 2020 election an “Open Letter from Senior Military Leaders” was signed by 317 retired Generals and Admirals and, it said the 2020 election could be the most important election since our country was founded. “With the Democrat Party welcoming Socialists and Marxists, our historic way of life is at stake.” Unfortunately, that statement’s truth was quickly revealed, beginning with the election process itself.

Without fair and honest elections that accurately reflect the “will of the people” our Constitutional Republic is lost. Election integrity demands insuring there is one legal vote cast and counted per citizen. Legal votes are identified by State Legislature’s approved controls using government IDs, verified signatures, etc. Today, many are calling such commonsense controls “racist” in an attempt to avoid having fair and honest elections. Using racial terms to suppress proof of eligibility is itself a tyrannical intimidation tactic. Additionally, the “Rule of Law” must be enforced in our election processes to ensure integrity. The FBI and Supreme Court must act swiftly when election irregularities are surfaced and not ignore them as was done in 2020. Finally, H.R.1 & S.1, (if passed), would destroy election fairness and allow Democrats to forever remain in power violating our Constitution and ending our Representative Republic.

Aside from the election, the Current Administration has launched a full-blown assault on our Constitutional rights in a dictatorial manner, bypassing the Congress, with more than 50 Executive Orders quickly signed, many reversing the previous Administration’s effective policies and regulations. Moreover, population control actions such as excessive lockdowns, school and business closures, and most alarming, censorship of written and verbal expression are all direct assaults on our fundamental Rights. We must support and hold accountable politicians who will act to counter Socialism, Marxism and Progressivism, support our Constitutional Republic, and insist on fiscally responsible governing while focusing on all Americans, especially the middle class, not special interest or extremist groups which are used to divide us into warring factions.

Additional National Security Issues and Actions:

• Open borders jeopardize national security by increasing human trafficking, drug cartels, terrorists entry, health/CV19 dangers, and humanitarian crises. Illegals are flooding our Country bringing high economic costs, crime, lowering wages, and illegal voting in some states. We must reestablish border controls and continue building the wall while supporting our dedicated border control personnel. Sovereign nations must have controlled borders.

• China is the greatest external threat to America. Establishing cooperative relations with the Chinese Communist Party emboldens them to continue progress toward world domination, militarily, economically, politically and technologically. We must impose more sanctions and restrictions to impede their world domination goal and protect America’s interests. • The free flow of information is critical to the security of our Republic, as illustrated by freedom of speech and the press being in the 1st Amendment of our Constitution. Censoring speech and expression, distorting speech, spreading disinformation by government officials, private entities, and the media is a method to suppress the free flow of information, a tyrannical technique used in closed societies. We must counter this on all fronts beginning with removing Section 230 protection from big tech.

• Re-engaging in the flawed Iran Nuclear Deal would result in Iran acquiring nuclear weapons along with the means to deliver them, thereby upsetting Mideast peace initiatives and aiding a terrorist nation whose slogans and goals include “death to America” and “death to Israel” . We must resist the new China/Iran agreement and not support the Iran Nuclear Deal. In addition, continue with the Mideast peace initiatives, the “Abraham Accords,” and support for Israel.

• Stopping the Keystone Pipeline eliminates our recently established energy independence and causes us to be energy dependent on nations not friendly to us, while eliminating valuable US jobs. We must open the Keystone Pipeline and regain our energy independence for national security and economic reasons.

• Using the U.S. military as political pawns with thousands of troops deployed around the U.S. Capitol Building, patrolling fences guarding against a non-existent threat, along with forcing Politically Correct policies like the divisive critical race theory into the military at the expense of the War Fighting Mission, seriously degrades readiness to fight and win our Nation’s wars, creating a major national security issue. We must support our Military and Vets; focus on war fighting, eliminate the corrosive infusion of Political Correctness into our military which damages morale and war fighting cohesion.

• The “Rule of Law” is fundamental to our Republic and security. Anarchy as seen in certain cities cannot be tolerated. We must support our law enforcement personnel and insist that DAs, our courts, and the DOJ enforce the law equally, fairly, and consistently toward all.

• The mental and physical condition of the Commander in Chief cannot be ignored. He must be able to quickly make accurate national security decisions involving life and limb anywhere, day or night. Recent Democrat leadership’s inquiries about nuclear code procedures sends a dangerous national security signal to nuclear armed adversaries, raising the question about who is in charge. We must always have an unquestionable chain of command.

Under a Democrat Congress and the Current Administration, our Country has taken a hard left turn toward Socialism and a Marxist form of tyrannical government which must be countered now by electing congressional and presidential candidates who will always act to defend our Constitutional Republic. The survival of our Nation and its cherished freedoms, liberty, and historic values are at stake. We urge all citizens to get involved now at the local, state and/or national level to elect political representatives who will act to Save America, our Constitutional Republic, and hold those currently in office accountable. The “will of the people” must be heard and followed.

Signed by:

  1. RADM Ernest B. Acklin, USCG, ret.
  2. MG Joseph T. Anderson, USMC, ret.
  3. RADM Philip Anselmo, USN, ret.
  4. MG Joseph Arbuckle, USA, ret.
  5. BG John Arick, USMC, ret.
  6. RADM Jon W. Bayless, Jr. USN, ret.
  7. RDML James Best, USN, ret.
  8. BG Charles Bishop, USAF, ret.
  9. BG William A. Bloomer, USMC, ret.
  10. BG Donald Bolduc, USA, ret.
  11. LTG William G. Boykin, USA, ret.
  12. MG Edward R. Bracken, USAF, ret.
  13. MG Patrick H. Brady, MOH, USA, ret.
  14. VADM Edward S. Briggs, USN, ret.
  15. LTG Richard “Tex’ Brown III USAF, ret.
  16. BG Frank Bruno, USAF, ret.
  17. VADM Toney M. Bucchi, USN, ret.
  18. RADM John T. Byrd, USN, ret.
  19. BG Jimmy Cash, USAF, ret.
  20. LTG Dennis D. Cavin, USA, ret.
  21. LTG James E. Chambers, USAF, ret. 22. MG Carroll D. Childers, USA, ret.
  22. BG Clifton C. “Tip” Clark, USAF, ret.
  23. VADM Ed Clexton, USN, ret.
  24. MG Jay Closner, USAF, ret
  25. MG Tommy F. Crawford, USAF, ret.
  26. MG Robert E. Dempsey, USAF, ret.
  27. BG Phillip Drew, USAF, ret.
  28. MG Neil L. Eddins, USAF, ret.
  29. RADM Ernest Elliot, USN, ret.
  30. BG Jerome V. Foust, USA, ret.
  31. BG Jimmy E. Fowler, USA, ret.
  32. RADMU J. Cameron Fraser, USN, ret.
  33. MG John T. Furlow, USA, ret.
  34. MG Timothy F. Ghormley, USMC, ret.
  35. MG Francis C. Gideon, USAF, ret.
  36. MG Lee V. Greer, USAF, ret.
  37. RDML Michael R. Groothousen, Sr., USN, ret.
  38. BG John Grueser, USAF, ret.
  39. MG Ken Hagemann, USAF, ret.
  40. BG Norman Ham, USAF, ret.
  41. VADM William Hancock, USN, ret.
  42. LTG Henry J. Hatch, USA, ret.
  43. BG James M. Hesson, USA, ret.
  44. MG Bill Hobgood, USA, ret. 46. BG Stanislaus J. Hoey, USA, ret.
  45. MG Bob Hollingsworth, USMC, ret.
  46. MG Jerry D. Holmes, USAF, ret.
  47. MG Clinton V. Horn, USAF, ret.
  48. LTG Joseph E. Hurd, USAF, ret.
  49. VADM Paul Ilg, USN, ret.
  50. MG T. Irby, USA, ret.
  51. LTG Ronald Iverson, USAF, ret.
  52. RADM (L) Grady L. Jackson
  53. MG William K. James, USAF, ret.
  54. LTG James H. Johnson, Jr. USA, ret.
  55. ADM. Jerome L. Johnson, USN, ret.
  56. BG Charles Jones, USAF, ret.
  57. BG Robert R. Jordan, USA, ret.
  58. BG Jack H. Kotter, USA, ret.
  59. MG Anthony R. Kropp, USA, ret.
  60. RADM Chuck Kubic, USN, ret.
  61. BG Jerry L. Laws, USA, ret.
  62. BG Douglas E. Lee, USA, ret.
  63. MG Vernon B. Lewis, USA, ret.
  64. MG Thomas G. Lightner, USA, ret.
  65. MG James E. Livingston, USMC, ret. MOH
  66. MG John D. Logeman, USAF, ret.
  67. MG Jarvis Lynch, USMC, ret. 70. LTG Fred McCorkle, USMC, ret.
  68. MG Don McGregor, USAF, ret.
  69. LTG Thomas McInerney, USAF, ret.
  70. RADM John H. McKinley, USN, ret.
  71. BG Michael P. McRaney, USAF, ret.
  72. BG Ronald S. Mangum, USA, ret.
  73. BG James M. Mead, USMC, ret.
  74. BG Joe Mensching, USAF, ret.
  75. RADM W. F. Merlin, USCG, ret.
  76. RADM (L) Mark Milliken, USN, ret.
  77. MG John F. Miller, USAF, ret.
  78. RADM Ralph M. Mitchell, Jr. USN, ret.
  79. MG Paul Mock, USA. ret.
  80. BG Daniel I. Montgomery, USA, ret.,
  81. RADM John A. Moriarty, USN, ret.,
  82. RADM David R. Morris, USN, ret.
  83. RADM Bill Newman, USN, ret.
  84. BG Joe Oder, USA, ret.
  85. MG O’Mara, USAF, ret.
  86. MG Joe S. Owens, USA, ret.
  87. VADM Jimmy Pappas, USN, ret.
  88. LTG Garry L. Parks, USMC, ret.
  89. RADM Russ Penniman, RADM, USN, ret.
  90. RADM Leonard F. Picotte, ret. 94. VADM John Poindexter, USN, ret.
  91. RADM Ronald Polant, USCG, ret.
  92. MG Greg Power, USAF, ret.
  93. RDM Brian Prindle, USN, ret.
  94. RADM J.J. Quinn, USN, ret.
  95. LTG Clifford H. Rees, Jr. USAF, ret.
  96. RADM Norman T. Saunders, USCG, ret.
  97. MG Richard V. Secord, USAF, ret.
  98. RADM William R. Schmidt, USN, ret.
  99. LTG Hubert Smith, USA, ret.
  100. MG James N. Stewart, USAF, ret.
  101. RADM Thomas Stone, USN., ret.
  102. BG Joseph S. Stringham, USA, ret.
  103. MG Michael Sullivan, USMC, ret.
  104. RADM (U) Jeremy Taylor, USN, ret.
  105. LTG David Teal, USAF, ret.
  106. VADM Howard B. Thorsen, USCG, ret.
  107. RADM Robert P. Tiernan, USN, ret.
  108. LTG Garry Trexler, USAF, ret.
  109. BG James T. Turlington, M.D., USAF, ret.
  110. BG Richard J. Valente, USA ret.
  111. MG Paul Vallely, USA, ret.
  112. MG Russell L. Violett, USAF, ret.
  113. BG George H. Walker, Jr. USAR Corp of Engineers, ret. 118. MG Kenneth Weir, USMCR, ret.
  114. BG William O. Welch, USAF, ret.
  115. MG John M. White, USAF, ret.
  116. MG Geoffrey P. Wiedeman, JR. USAF, ret.
  117. MG Richard O. Wightman, Jr., USA, ret.
  118. RADM Denny Wisely, USN, ret.
  119. LTG John Woodward, USAF, ret.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/24/...y-leaders-who-say-he-is-unfit-for-office.html

"OK children, let's do the math: 489 - 120 = +369. Ooops, it's coming out all wrong! Let's erase and start over."

Usually when there are at least two sides to an issue, the majority will side with the least defective logic, but occasionally the majority does not. Thus we see illustrated in the majority opinion both the great strength and the Achilles' heel of democracy in one fell swoop, or as a colleague of mine liked to say "in one swell foop!"

In the present case, it would seem opinions line up as they usually do in a democracy.
 
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