Our Democracy Hangs by a Thin Thread

[ph1l]

After certification further analysis of the ballots continued and gore was determined to have been the actual winner in Florida by a small number of votes.*
* from Wiki: Media organizations[3][4][5] later analyzed the ballots and found that, under any considered criteria, the originally pursued, limited county-based recounts would have confirmed a Bush victory, whereas a state-wide recount would have revealed a Gore victory. Florida later changed to new voting machines to avoid punch cards, which had produced dimpled or hanging chads.

Gore would have won if the rules were retroactively changed.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/sns-ballots-story.html

If the U.S. Supreme Court had allowed Florida's courts to finish their abortive recount of last year's deadlocked presidential election, President Bush probably still would have won by several hundred votes, a comprehensive study of the uncounted ballots has found.

But if the recount had been conducted under new vote-counting rules that Florida and other states now are adopting -- rules aimed at recording the intentions of as many voters as possible -- Democratic candidate Al Gore probably would have won, although by an even thinner margin, the study found.

 

[wrbtrader]

Make no mistake, legally, Trump is trying to overtake a constitutional government. There is no two sides/whataboutism to this.

His failure will the the legacy most will remember and it will impact the Republicans greatly in the next elections...mid-terms and Presidential.

I'm very surprise they're letting (their silence) drag them down the rabbit hole with him without even a fight...unreal.

wrbtrader

 

[wrbtrader]

Gore would have won if the rules were retroactively changed.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/sns-ballots-story.html

This is why the 2020 elections is so important to the Democrats and in my opinion is scaring the hell out of the Republicans...

Democrats now have a new blueprint of what to do in future elections. For example...such as the enlistment of help from a prior President was just the beginning and it paved the way into grabbing Georgia like some last minute steal of someone's girlfriend.

In many ways, it was a military strategic strike due to the center location of Georgia among other Republican states.

Biden / Harris takes Georgia...crazy.

wrbtrader

 

[piezoe]

His failure will the the legacy most will remember and it will impact the Republicans greatly in the next elections...mid-terms and Presidential.

I'm very surprise they're letting (their silence) drag them down the rabbit hole with him without even a fight...unreal.

wrbtrader

It's unexplainable at this point. Maybe later it will be clear what's happened to the party. Just to pass it off as mainstream Senate Republicans being afraid of Trump is a too simple explanation I think. The Republican party may emerge after this past election as a radical right party cobbled together out of evangelicals, white nationalists, and tea party anarchists, leaving mainstream Republicans, i.e., the "Lincoln Project Republicans" out in the cold. Very interesting what's happened. I think we will know something after the Georgia Senate run-off in early January. It's hard to say what the result of Trump's actions will be on mainstream Republicans , but some might just stay home in protest, not wanting to associate with what has become the "party of Trump", which is taking on the appearance of a "white nationalist cult". Perhaps that's what Steve Bannon had in mind all along.

 

[Cuddles]

 

[Bugenhagen]

Americans don't like sore losers. Now that is rich coming from the party still whining about Gore, and has never quit bitching about Hillary blowing a layup. You guys have been taking your ball and going home for years. Such short memories you lefties have.

Gore would have won if the rules were retroactively changed.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/sns-ballots-story.html

A thing to remember about this was Bush's little brother was running Florida and so that this all happened in the state he controlled seemed to be shenanigans and it was proven to be so subsequently.

 

[Cuddles]

It's what Trump's defense lawyers said in the unhinged tv conference yesterday. Unless we can't believe news conferences because the media dares televise it?

it is clear to me now that Trump has a penchant on hiring people who've lost their goddamn mind

#BestPeeps

 

[ph1l]

A thing to remember about this was Bush's little brother was running Florida and so that this all happened in the state he controlled seemed to be shenanigans and it was proven to be so subsequently.

Jeb Bush wasn't the one who designed or chose the infamous "butterfly ballots."

It was the Democratic Supervisor of Elections for Palm Beach County, Florida, Theresa LePore aka "Madame Butterfly."

Theresa LePore is a former Supervisor of Elections for Palm Beach County, Florida. She is most notable as the person who designed the infamous "butterfly ballot", used in the 2000 presidential election.[1] This would lead the press to nickname her "Madame Butterfly". Following the controversial results of the 2000 election, she lost her re-election bid in September 2004 and left office in January 2005.

My stepmother lived in Palm Beach County at the time and said she wasn't sure if she voted for Gore whom she favored or Buchanan.

 

[Bugenhagen]

Jeb Bush wasn't the one who designed or chose the infamous "butterfly ballots."
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It was the Democratic Supervisor of Elections for Palm Beach County, Florida, Theresa LePore aka "Madame Butterfly."


My stepmother lived in Palm Beach County at the time and said she wasn't sure if she voted for Gore whom she favored or Buchanan.

Oh God.

 

[Cuddles]

thank god for the best people