Other Markets to Trade -Evening Hours

[wavetrader]

Quote from Mr.Bling-Bling:

The Bund is the most liquid interest product on Eurex. It opens 11 pm west coast- 2 AM east coast. Commission also very good.

Enjoy the action-----1000 lots taken at a time.

What time does it end trading - on the West Coast and East Coast?

 

[bungrider]

Quote from BlueHorseshoe:




US citizens can trade absolutely anything and everything.

The CFTC restricts US RESIDENTS' trading of certain overseas futures and options contracts.

Just to clarify .... them be facts.

man oh man, do i love this great nation!

Quote from def:



BlueHorseshoe got it right about US citizens and trading. if you are a US resident you need to trade CFTC approved products. HSI (HK), N225, TOPX (japan), SPI (australia) are offered via IB and all are CFTC approved...if you trade via IB, you can request to be placed on the HK server and avoid the nightly reset. It will become less of an issue later this month with the change from daylight savings time.

finally, this just in.... GBL, GBM, GBS (german bond 10/5/2yr) futures AND futures-options are now available for US customers via IB. These futures are the biggest traded contracts in Europe. We will offer the options as well.

def & BlueHorseshoe,

thanks for the info.


def,

will IB be offering any french, hong kong, or aussie stocks & options for trading? i am not a futures guy, nor do i desire to be.

also, if you guys do offer more stocks (like from the above 3 markets) would you focus on finding a market that doesn't have those BS extra taxes like UK and swiss stocks do?

thanks,
-b

 

[bungrider]

fellow ET gents and ladies,

below are two links from cftc's web site with the approved foreign contracts for US citizens to trade with no bullshit from the govt.

http://www.cftc.gov/dea/deadcioforeignfuturesandoptions.htm#usaccess
http://www.cftc.gov/opa/backgrounder/opapart30.htm

(from 2nd link):

"APPROVED: Foreign Stock Index Futures Contracts for Which No-Action Relief Has Been Granted.

AE -- The Amsterdam Exchanges (formed by the merger of the Financiele Termijnmarkt Amsterdam and the European Options Exchange):

Eurotop 100 Index futures contract†
ASXF -- ASX Futures Exchange:

S&P/ASX 50 futures contract
S&P/ASX 200 futures contract
EDX -- EDX London Exchange (formerly traded on OM London Exchange, Ltd.)*:

OMX Stock Index Standardized futures contract†
OMX Stock Index Flexible futures contract†
EUREX -- Eurex Deutschland (formerly DTB, Deutsche Terminbörse):

Dow Jones Global Titans 50 futures contract
Dow Jones STOXX 600 Banking Sector Index futures contract
Dow Jones EURO STOXX Banking Sector Index futures contract
Dow Jones STOXX 50 Index futures contract†
Dow Jones EURO STOXX 50 Index futures contract†
Deutsche Aktienindex (DAX) Stock Index futures contract†
EURONEXT -- Euronext Amsterdam, N.V.:

AEX Index futures contract
Light AEX Index futures contract
HKFE -- Hong Kong Futures Exchange:

Hang Seng Index futures contract†
HKFE Taiwan Index futures contract†
INTEX -- International Futures Exchange (Bermuda) Ltd.:

Financial News Composite Index futures contract†
IDEM -- Italian Stock Exchange (Mercato Italiano dei Derivati):

MIB 30 Index futures contract†
MiniFIB futures contract
JSE -- JSE Securities Exchange South Africa:

FTSE/JSE 40 Top companies Index futures contract
LIFFE -- London International Financial Futures and Options Exchange:

Morgan Stanley Capital International Pan-Euro Index futures contract†
Morgan Stanley Capital International Euro Index futures contract†
FTSE International Eurobloc 100 Index futures contract†
FTSE International Eurotop 300 Index futures contract†
FTSE International Eurotop 300 (ex. UK) Index futures contract†
FTSE International Eurotop 100 Index futures contract†
Financial Times-Stock Exchange 100 Index futures contract†
Financial Times Mid-250 Index futures contract (FTSE Mid-Cap)†
Mini FTSE 100 Index futures contract
MEFF RV (Meff Renta Variable) -- Meff Sociedad Holding Rectora de Productos Financieros Derivados, S.A. (Spain):

IBEX-35 Stock Index futures contract†
S&P Euro Index futures contract
S&P Europe 350 Index futures contract
ME -- Montreal Stock Exchange:

S&P/TSE 60 Stock Index futures contract†
MONEP -- Marchè des Options Nègociables de Paris:

CAC 40 Index futures contract†
Dow Jones STOXX 50 Index futures contact†
Dow Jones EURO STOXX 50 Index futures contract†
OM London Exchange Ltd. (formerly OMLX, London Securities and Derivatives Exchange, Ltd.):

OMX Stock Index Standardized futures contract†
OMX Stock Index Flexible futures contract†
OMXCAP Index Standardized futures contract†
OMXCAP Index Flexible futures contract†
OM -- OM Stockholm Exchange AB:

OMX Stock Index Standardized futures contract†
OMXCAP Index Standardized futures contract†
OSE -- Osaka Securities Exchange

FTSE Japan Index futures contract
MSCI Japan Index futures contract
Nikkei Stock Index 300 futures contract (Nikkei 300)†
Nikkei Stock Average Index futures contract (Nikkei 225)†
SGX-DT -- Singapore Exchange Derivatives Trading, Limited (formerly SIMEX, the Singapore International Monetary Exchange):

SGX MSCI Japan Index futures contract
Morgan Stanley Capital International Singapore Free Stock Index futures contract†
Morgan Stanley Capital International Hong Kong Stock Index futures contract†
Morgan Stanley Capital International Taiwan Stock Index futures contract†
Nikkei Stock Average futures contract†
Nikkei Stock Index 300 futures contract (Nikkei 300)†
SFE -- Sydney Futures Exchange Ltd.:

All Ordinaries Share Price Index futures contract†
S&P/Australian Stock Exchange 200 Index futures contract†
TSE -- Tokyo Stock Exchange:

Tokyo Stock Price Index futures contract (TOPIX)†
S&P/Topix 150 Index futures contract
TFE -- Toronto Futures Exchange:

Toronto Stock Exchange (TSE) 300 Composite Index futures contract†
TSE 100 Index futures contract†
TSE 300 Spot Index†
TSE 35 Index futures contract†
TSE 35 Spot Index†
PENDING APPROVAL:
Foreign Stock Index Futures Contracts Pending No-Action

BSE - The Bombay Stock Exchange (The Stock Exchange, Mumbai):

BSE Sensitive Index of 30 Stocks futures contract
LIFFE -- The London International Financial Futures and Options Exchange*:

FTSEurofirst 80 Index Futures Contract
FTSEurofirst 100 Index Futures Contract
NSE --The National Stock Exchange of India, Limited:

S&P CNX Nifty Index futures contract
SGX-DT -- Singapore Exchange Derivatives Trading, Limited:

S&P CNX Nifty Index futures contract
SGX Straits Times Index futures contract


...Therefore, under the rule amendment, if the underlying foreign exchange-traded futures product (including futures on stock indices and on foreign government debt) may be offered or sold in the United States, the foreign option based on that futures contract may be offered or sold as well without further action."

 

[def]

We're looking at additional cash markets (you wouldn't be allowed to trade stock options due to the US restrictions). We could offer HK tomorrow but the cost of additional throughput, supplying data (they protect the data vendors and fail to see the big picture), and don't make it very interesting.

 

[momotrdr]

Quote from wavetrader:



Sorry, momotrdr. Don't quite understand TS @ EC.

Also, do you know what the symbol is for Euro FX? What exchange does it trade on? Is it the same as USD/CAD?

Thanks.

On the TradeStation platform, the symbol for EURO FX is @EC ,
for the continous contract.

-momo

 

[IndexTrader]

This would be great but the problem seems to be the cost of commissions in some of these places makes trading almost prohibitive.

With so much anger at NYSE specialists, the US market fee structure remains *very* competitive in comparison to the rest of the world.

Quote from bungrider:

def,
will IB be offering any french, hong kong, or aussie stocks & options for trading? i am not a futures guy, nor do i desire to be.

also, if you guys do offer more stocks (like from the above 3 markets) would you focus on finding a market that doesn't have those BS extra taxes like UK and swiss stocks do?

 

[olintner]

Quote from wavetrader:



What time does it end trading - on the West Coast and East Coast?

Hi Wavetrader,

the Bund currently trades 8:00 til 19:00 CET (11 hours).
Eastern Time: open 2am til 1pm
West Coast: 11 pm til 10 am

Regards, Oliver