OT: small curiosity on future traders habits

Ivano

Ivano

Since October is like is much easier getting steady returns from stocks, I think is not only me of course, because i see institutions coming into the stocks.

A "typical" future trader usually sticks with indexes also when the market is easy to predict on the upside, or they tend to allocate some % capital on some stock as well

I know it depends and that possibly one prefers in trading to stick on where he has full expertise, but this question is on the back of my mind since 3 days and need to get it off from my mind
 
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Ivano said:
Since October is like is much easier getting steady returns from stocks, I think is not only me of course, because i see institutions coming into the stocks.

A "typical" future trader usually sticks with indexes also when the market is easy to predict on the upside, or they tend to allocate some % capital on some stock as well

I know it depends and that possibly one prefers in trading to stick on where he has full expertise, but this question is on the back of my mind since 3 days and need to get it off from my mind
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WHATs the question??
OCT tends to be up. [Bear killer, Stock Traders Almanac names OCT]=SPY + QQQ benchmarks;
+ related derivatives, but these are on another line for good reasonsLOL 7-7-23:D:D
 
Not sure what the question is.
But there’s no optimal allocation.
Because of objectives and constraints.

Usually the more risk involved then the lower the allocation…

Personally I’d invest 80% in equity swings and 20% in future day trades.

Futures traders are usually long / short
Equity traders are usually long only.

But everything is possible.
Some might invest in bonds, real estate …
Some might get into buying businesses …

It really depends about you, your circle of competences and friends. But don’t lose big money on stuff you do not understand and don’t blindly trust other’s promises.

In most case there’s always a risk of ruin !
Even buying government bonds xD

Heard a guy in new york talk about investing into cargo ship and containers. He said there’s simply too much money. It’s kind of disgusting. Haha
 
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as some of you raised some doubt i reformulate the question.

I have the idea based on the people i know and from what i read in this forum that future day traders are quite "fundamentalist" in preferring them as way to day trade, in particular they like MES/ES futures. On this premise that I could erroneously assume as true. I come with my question.

When the market is in a range or bearish, the futures at my advice present few advantages, as the possibility to scalp few ticks with returns a stock could not give, or to go short without excessive cost or hoping to be filled out by the out tick rule.

But when the market is bullish, whatever trader with some experience can reasonably make "easy" money, because the reward risk is higher, and breakout and continuations are more likely to occur, but why to bet on MES/ES futures considering that stocks in bull markets present a lower correlation to SPX, AND most important a good chartist can choice really high probability setups on thousands charts instead of basing his decision on just the ES?
 
I made some amendments to your writeup.

I did not make complete amendments as I don't fully understand your complex
Italian English.

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I have the idea based on the people I know and from what I read in this forum that futures day traders are very "technical" and they'd day trade those futures. In particular, they like index, oil, gold, copper, bond, currency .... futures. On this premise that I could erroneously assume it as true. I come with my question.

When the market is in a range or directional, the futures at my advice present few advantages, such as the possibility to profit a few tens of ticks with returns a stock could not give, or to go short without excessive cost or hoping to be filled out by the out tick rule.

But when the market is very directional, whatever trader with some experience can reasonably make "easy" money, because the reward risk is higher, and breakouts and continuations are more likely to occur, but why bet on index futures considering that stocks in bull markets present a lower correlation to SPX, AND most important a good chartist can choose really high probability setups on thousands of stock charts instead of basing his decision on just the index futures, oil, gold ... futures?


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Anyway, why do I day trade futures and not stocks?
There are
tens of thousands of stocks in the US,
tens of thousands of stocks in Japan,
tens of thousands of stocks in the UK,
tens of thousands of stocks in Hongkong ....


I don't like filtering / screening those
millions of stocks every day even though I am a workaholic.

I just focus on around 25 to 40 futures.



 
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