Order-to-execution ratio too high?

This question is in the option forum. I don't know, because you did not tell us, if the question is about equity, option, futures or options on futures.

If you are sending 2000 orders per day you have a bigger problem than your clearing firm. You can lose priority customer status by entering more than 390 order per day on average over a month. March had 23 trading days, which is a lot. That means if you entered more than 8970 order in the month, you status can change. Read about Professional Order Designation.

https://www.cboe.com/publish/RegCir/RG16-064.pdf

Bob
All my orders are options and thanks for pointing out the priority status change. Yes I have been notified about losing the priority customer status too. My understanding is that this is a exchange-specific effect. Have you seen a big impact on fills? and are some exchanges better to use without the priority customer status?
 
You should avoid pro-customer status if possible. As customer, you go ahead of firm/BD and pro-cust, but that is not the big issue. Customer fees are much lower than pro-cust fees. I can't speak for IB, but many introducing brokers like us have access to smart routes that can avoid most maker-taker fees as the give a first look to a market maker before landing on an option exchange. These routes are very popular. Those same MM won't accept pro-customers on those routes because the cost is too high,

Also, for automated traders that are subject to non-display fees, OPRA has an exception for Priority customers but not for BDs and pro-cust. Once you get hit with non-display fees this will increase your monthly OPRA cost from around $50/month to $2000/month.

https://www.opradata.com/specs/OPRA_FEE_Notice_9-30-2016_1.pdf

You should give me a call tomorrow.

Good luck..Bob
 
You should avoid pro-customer status if possible. As customer, you go ahead of firm/BD and pro-cust, but that is not the big issue. Customer fees are much lower than pro-cust fees. I can't speak for IB, but many introducing brokers like us have access to smart routes that can avoid most maker-taker fees as the give a first look to a market maker before landing on an option exchange. These routes are very popular. Those same MM won't accept pro-customers on those routes because the cost is too high,

Also, for automated traders that are subject to non-display fees, OPRA has an exception for Priority customers but not for BDs and pro-cust. Once you get hit with non-display fees this will increase your monthly OPRA cost from around $50/month to $2000/month.

https://www.opradata.com/specs/OPRA_FEE_Notice_9-30-2016_1.pdf

You should give me a call tomorrow.

Good luck..Bob
 
I don't use market data from IB other than quotes for positions and orders shown on the TWS platform. That's not "non-displayed use" you mentioned right?
 
I don't use market data from IB other than quotes for positions and orders shown on the TWS platform. That's not "non-displayed use" you mentioned right?

Also, for automated traders that are subject to non-display fees, OPRA has an exception for Priority customers but not for BDs and pro-cust. Once you get hit with non-display fees this will increase your monthly OPRA cost from around $50/month to $2000/month.

Are you automated or are you entering 2000 orders a day by hand ?
 
I don't use market data from IB other than quotes for positions and orders shown on the TWS platform. That's not "non-displayed use" you mentioned right?

Do you have an open API where MD leaves the display? If that is true, IB might have to change their policy one day. I would focus more today on keeping your orders below an average of 390/day.
 
Do you have an open API where MD leaves the display? If that is true, IB might have to change their policy one day. I would focus more today on keeping your orders below an average of 390/day.

My AIP does not use MD from IB. It gets MD from a third party.
 
Do you have an open API where MD leaves the display? If that is true, IB might have to change their policy one day. I would focus more today on keeping your orders below an average of 390/day.

if I drop the orders to less than 390 a day I'd miss out on opportunities amount to far more than $2000 per month. I'm thinking divert to other brokers.
 
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