Orange is the new black


This is probably, no it is, the most important book of the year. Imo, every American should read this book.

 
I am surprised that more and more young men that are being wasted by the American system aren't joining Daesh. Once they go through the system, it is nearly impossible to get out of what follows you in America. We want to keep Facebook away from Daesh as a tool to recruit our young, but it is our very system that creates the very angry citizens that don't see a way out, in their own country.

On a vastly smaller scale, the same is true of the Credit Rating Agencies, but at least there you can declare bankruptcy and try to start over. Although, how often do you see in applications, "Have you ever declared bankruptcy" ?

Do the time, pay the fines. Stop putting people in jail for what are essentially minor crimes. Then, for non-violent crimes, remove the entry from all databases accessible to the public. Decrease the credit agencies power.
 
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"There is no fresh start in todays' world. Any twelve year old with a cell phone can find out what you did"

 
Nitro, if I recall, you were the same guy who had no idea that a computer was made with technology, derived from quantum mechanics. You were running your mouth about quantum mechanics but when it came down to it, you had no idea who Niels Bohr and Max Planck were. Study up next time my friend. You ran your mouth but had no idea what you were talking about, what else would I expect from an Obama voter?
 
Agree with nitro

Prison industrial complex is just another fiefdom operating as a legitimate enterprise in America.

Guards, judges, lawyers, lawmakers, cops, swat, private prisons, civil asset forfeiture, financial espionage, FBI, dea, big pharma and big health insurance all stand to lose a big chunk of their livelihoods when drug decriminalization happens.

Before rand Paul turned milquetoast he wanted decriminalization and pardon non violent drug offenders. Something like roughly half of the prison population are non violent drug offenders.

Habitual drug use is just self medicating an underlying psychological problem. It shouldn't be illegal. Do the research. Historically pharmaceutical companies had the government literally ban plants found in nature to outlaw their competition. The puritanical Christians and power hungry bearucrats were happy to abide.
 
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Agree with nitro

Prison industrial complex is just another fiefdom operating as a legitimate enterprise in America.

Guards, judges, lawyers, lawmakers, cops, swat, private prisons, civil asset forfeiture, financial espionage, FBI, dea, big pharma and big health insurance all stand to lose a big chunk of their livelihoods when drug decriminalization happens.

Before rand Paul turned milquetoast he wanted decriminalization and pardon non violent drug offenders. Something like roughly half of the prison population are non violent drug offenders.

Habitual drug use is just self medicating an underlying psychological problem. It shouldn't be illegal. Do the research. Historically pharmaceutical companies had the government literally ban plants found in nature to outlaw their competition. The puritanical Christians and power hungry bearucrats were happy to abide.

You are pretty much spot on about the pharmaceutical industry and the prison industrial complex but I am not sure I buy the rest of your argument.

The biggest issue I have is this 'non violent drug offenders'. What exactly is a non violent drug offender? If you are busted with enough drugs that you are clearly involved in a business venture that involves selling and distribution of drugs, you deserve to do some time in prison. I know a dude who did time in prison because he got busted with 4 pounds of coke. This guy would be considered a non-violent drug offender. I am sorry pal, but if you get busted with 4 pounds of coke, you deserve to go to prison for a considerable amount of time. There is too much money to be made pushing drugs and if there is no real risk of long prison terms, there is going to be a lot more drug pushing.

BTW, the war on drugs reduced the mafia to a shell of it former self. These guys ain't got shit going on compared to the 60s and 70s. Back then, these guys would get busted doing something and might do 2 or 3 years in prison and they would take one for the team and not snitch. Once they were busted selling drugs and were facing long prison terms of 20 or more years, there was a lot incentive to snitch and get a reduced sentence. Nobody mentions that.
 
Nitro, if I recall, you were the same guy who had no idea that a computer was made with technology, derived from quantum mechanics. You were running your mouth about quantum mechanics but when it came down to it, you had no idea who Niels Bohr and Max Planck were. Study up next time my friend. You ran your mouth but had no idea what you were talking about, what else would I expect from an Obama voter?

How could he possibly not know who Max Planck was?
 
You are pretty much spot on about the pharmaceutical industry and the prison industrial complex but I am not sure I buy the rest of your argument.

The biggest issue I have is this 'non violent drug offenders'. What exactly is a non violent drug offender? If you are busted with enough drugs that you are clearly involved in a business venture that involves selling and distribution of drugs, you deserve to do some time in prison. I know a dude who did time in prison because he got busted with 4 pounds of coke. This guy would be considered a non-violent drug offender. I am sorry pal, but if you get busted with 4 pounds of coke, you deserve to go to prison for a considerable amount of time. There is too much money to be made pushing drugs and if there is no real risk of long prison terms, there is going to be a lot more drug pushing.

BTW, the war on drugs reduced the mafia to a shell of it former self. These guys ain't got shit going on compared to the 60s and 70s. Back then, these guys would get busted doing something and might do 2 or 3 years in prison and they would take one for the team and not snitch. Once they were busted selling drugs and were facing long prison terms of 20 or more years, there was a lot incentive to snitch and get a reduced sentence. Nobody mentions that.
ha ha, I can reduce the Mafia and all the Mexican cartels to absolutely nothing but poor coca and pot growers just by legalizing drugs. You talk about two or three years in prison like it is no big deal. It's a huge expense for me and nothing good can come from it for them. All because you are scared of drugs.

pharmaphobiast
 
ha ha, I can reduce the Mafia and all the Mexican cartels to absolutely nothing but poor coca and pot growers just by legalizing drugs. You talk about two or three years in prison like it is no big deal. It's a huge expense for me and nothing good can come from it for them. All because you are scared of drugs.

pharmaphobiast

Nice trolling post.

The fact of the matter is, if a mafia guy was facing 3 years in prison, he would likely not snitch. If a mafia guy is facing 25 years in prison, there is a much higher chance he snitches. Going to prison for 3 years was not seen as a big deal for mafia guys because they usually ran the place, and didnt have it too bad. They had a lot harder time in the federal pen.
 
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