OptionVue vs ToS

Quote from Joel Reymont:

BiteMe, would you care to elaborate on the false part?

What features of OV can you _not_ use at TOS for free?

What is missing in TOS that OV has and how does that give you a trading advantage?

There is a big flashing banner at the top of your screen with the answer.
 
Quote from Bite Me:

There is a big flashing banner at the top of your screen with the answer.

Do you mean the Variable Volatility Model, Backtrader and 5 years of historical options data?

Are you actively using OptionVue and feel these features are worth the price that you are paying?
 
I have the OptionVue price sheet in front of me and the standard edition is $1495 + $500/yr for quote data + $650/yr for weekly BDB updates. The market scanner is $500/yr and backtrader is $400 (one time).

I never used TOS but there are several elements that standout in OptionVue:

- Yates options pricing model: based on American pricing model, but adjusts for early exercise. They claim results differ 1% or less from Cox-Ross-Rubinstein

- Variable volatility model: projects hypothetical volatility curve across future time frames

- Trade Finder

All of the other models in the software are fairly standard and well documented (SV, log price distribution, etc)...
 
An earlier poster said not to reinvent the wheel by using Excel . I use TOS in a retail account , and their pro version Thinkpipes and they are excellent platforms for option trading and risk analysis.

What they won't have however are scanner which other products have on a subscription basis. Are they worth it? You have to judge that for yourself. OpVue has a good product called Opscan which is pricey AND 15 min delayed data.

As far as re-inventing the wheel using Excel, I know of no public product that can.

Scan calendars on earnings stock alone.

Scan straddles and discern when it is pricey/cheap relative to what I think the straddle is worth at a certain date.

Scan any stupid criteria I can think of such as show me cheap combos when it is a full moon outside....

AND do it all in real time using IB real time quote + Excel using Hoadley Add-ins.

Regards,

Peter Hoadley......

just kidding. I am not Hoadley, just a # 1 fan of his addin.
 
Quote from Joel Reymont:

Are there any advantages to OptionVue vs. the ThinkOrSwim software?

I figure buying OptionVue is like instantly going 2.5-3K underwater in my trading account, something that I will need to make up. A lot of people are enthusiastic about what ToS provides (greeks for the whole portfolio to manage overall risk?) but there must be a reason why people buy OV, right?

Thanks, Joel
why don' t you go download the 30 day free trial and find out for yourself?

p.s. chances are, there are useful features you don't know how to use.
 
ToS recently added a scanner. I haven't used it so I can't comment.

The ToS platform is great. I probably use about 1% of its features. One problem is that (AFAIK) most of their user documentation is in the form of downloadable videos. I have a slow dialup connection, so I haven't seen any. They have free seminars on how to use the software, but none in my area.
 
Quote from Eliot Hosewater:

ToS recently added a scanner. I haven't used it so I can't comment.

The ToS platform is great. I probably use about 1% of its features. One problem is that (AFAIK) most of their user documentation is in the form of downloadable videos. I have a slow dialup connection, so I haven't seen any. They have free seminars on how to use the software, but none in my area.

Eliot,

All Wed seminar transcripts are available on thinkorswim's website and there are quite a few on functionality, I suggest you check them out. Also drop by the chat rooms on TOS platform, there are people who would be happy to help you with features that you don't know how to use.
 
Quote from MTE:

Eliot,

All Wed seminar transcripts are available on thinkorswim's website and there are quite a few on functionality, I suggest you check them out. Also drop by the chat rooms on TOS platform, there are people who would be happy to help you with features that you don't know how to use.

Thanks. To paraphrase Rumsfeld, it's those pesky unknown unknowns that are the problem.
 
cool! Is this a home built Excel scanner? If "commercial", where can I get it from? (I have Hoadley's add in.)

Many thanks,
Bben


Quote from MushinSeeker:

An earlier poster said not to reinvent the wheel by using Excel . I use TOS in a retail account , and their pro version Thinkpipes and they are excellent platforms for option trading and risk analysis.

What they won't have however are scanner which other products have on a subscription basis. Are they worth it? You have to judge that for yourself. OpVue has a good product called Opscan which is pricey AND 15 min delayed data.

As far as re-inventing the wheel using Excel, I know of no public product that can.

Scan calendars on earnings stock alone.

Scan straddles and discern when it is pricey/cheap relative to what I think the straddle is worth at a certain date.

Scan any stupid criteria I can think of such as show me cheap combos when it is a full moon outside....

AND do it all in real time using IB real time quote + Excel using Hoadley Add-ins.

Regards,

Peter Hoadley......

just kidding. I am not Hoadley, just a # 1 fan of his addin.
 
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