Optionuniversity.com (Avoid at all costs)

I have traded since 1992 and have purchased many trading tools over the years. I agree that many or over-hyped. However, I must say that for the most part I have gotten my money's worth from most of them. Even if I get one or two good pointers from a course or book, or other program, it usually pays off in one or two trades that resulted from my training.

I have yet to purchase this program from Ron, but came hear to see what users were saying about it. Unfortunately, I find that most of the posters here are pontificating in a negative way without the benefit of personal experience. Those posts are worthless and are simply Machiavellian are the core. The must have stayed at the Holiday Inn Express last night!

It would appear that most of the individuals who have actually used the program have a generally positive view of it. On the other hand the detractors are mostly if not all those with no experience with Ron or the program.

Do you really believe those who claim to have such great personal results would really have an aversion to paying $297 for a course with a money back guarantee? If the truth were known, I would guess that they have an agenda.

So listen to the good and the bad from actual users!

Rick Nelson
 
IV trader. Could you please inform us if any personal knowledge or experience with Ron or Options University that would be beneficial. You say that the free stuff on other various web sites include 99% of what Ron would teach so it is clear then that you know exactly what he teaches. On the other hand, if you do not have that personal experience or information, then your comments do a disservice to those who come here looking for legitimate information based upon facts and not upon supposition.

I would think that to an experienced trader $297, $1000, or whatever program you choose would be a small price to pay. This is typically made up on one or two good trades.

Rick Nelson, MD
 
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I would think that to an experienced trader $297, $1000, or whatever program you choose would be a small price to pay. This is typically made up on one or two good trades.

Rick Nelson, MD
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Hi Ron.

By experienced you mean successful? Why would an experienced trader need your garbage?

Why do you scumbag vendors always make a relative-value argument against some BS future wins? Ignorance?
 
aticus,

Again you have shown your ignorance. I am not Ron. I am not in any way affiliated with options university. I am a successful individual investor. I just take offense to you pre-judging something that you have no personal experience with. You seem to know everything, but when put to the test you can only resort to ad hominem and ad ignorantum attacks. These are the two most common falacious arguments or the twelve used when one cannot debate and argument on the merits and always fail among intelligent participants.

Rick Nelson
 
Ron I formerly of Gateway Partners who was a trader in Philly when money was falling out of the sky and any guy who leased a seat and could raise his hand could make a living?

wow

One question on this thread, and its really more of an observation. Why does it appear that those who support OU are "new" to this forum with very few posts? Did they just find this forum and decided to use it as a soap box to tout OU?
 
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You need to broaden your base of option gurus if this guy is tops. My closest friend worked alongside Ronnie at the PHLX. His initials are "MY". :eek:
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Funny thread since I know all the players personally having spent some time as a mm at the PHLX. Best in the world huh?

ROTFLMAO
 
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aticus,

Again you have shown your ignorance. I am not Ron. I am not in any way affiliated with options university. I am a successful individual investor. I just take offense to you pre-judging something that you have no personal experience with. You seem to know everything, but when put to the test you can only resort to ad hominem and ad ignorantum attacks. These are the two most common falacious arguments or the twelve used when one cannot debate and argument on the merits and always fail among intelligent participants.

Rick Nelson
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Yet AGAIN?! Shit, I'd better stop as I've certainly met my lifetime quota!

You have certainly set me straight. It's absurd to assume that you are Ron... after all, you have two posts to your handle and seem strangely interested in protecting Ron's virtue.

BTW, I took "Intro to Logic" as well. It's "Ignorantiam" and fallacious is missing an L.
 
Quote from iluvit:

I have traded since 1992 and have purchased many trading tools over the years. I agree that many or over-hyped. However, I must say that for the most part I have gotten my money's worth from most of them. Even if I get one or two good pointers from a course or book, or other program, it usually pays off in one or two trades that resulted from my training.

Rick Nelson
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This is correct, and I appreciate the post, because some ETers are too hard on those who get educated at courses. People have many different ways of learning. I like to read, but dislike classrooms, webinars, etc., because I don't enjoy listening to someone else yap at me. With a book I can "cut to the chase." So learning has been inexpensive for me. But if others who favor other types of media or are auditory learners want to pay for courses, that is just fine *if* the courses are good and help them to get where they want to be. It is absolutely correct that one good idea will quickly end up being worth the price.

While it is true that trading can be learned for free, the question is how many *will* take the time to learn it for free. Better to fork over a few grand for some knowledge than to sit around thinking, "I really should be reading those books, but I just don't feel like it." My guess is that many people have a hard time slogging through books like McMillan and Natenberg. Reading is a solitary experience that does not appeal to everyone.
 
Well it seems you still have an inability to create a logical argument because you have no personal experience with ou. They may be worthless in the end, but you certainly have zero credibility as an evaluator. You think that since someone is new to a forum that they have no right to express concerns. I neither support or trash OU because I simply do not know enough about them. I came here looking for input from those who have personal knowledge. I am not sure if it is simply that you think you are omniscient or if there is a hidden agenda (like being a competitor) but something does not seems right. I doubt if you are very successful if you are so closed minded to other possible means of education and additionally, are so cheap that you are not willing to pay for good training.
 
Yep! got me on the spelling, but not on the underlying argument. I have no ties to Ron or OU. I am just a private trader and want to hear from those who have actually used it.

If I take the courses or buy materials, then I will render an honest review and give results. What I will not do though is tear down something based solely upon conjecture or supposition. That would only do more harm than good.
 
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