Just wondering why/how options market makers do not step on each other's foot, while also being able to decide about pricing of multi-leg combos, for example "locking" the pricing of butterlfies, spreads, boxes, etc - without allowing anyone else to play along. For example if you try to buy or sell a box, you won't be able to make more than the risk-free interest rate.
In trading you'd expect that someone may let go an option a bit cheaper, or pay a bit more than it's worth (slippage that happens to everyone), and even various market makers should not be able to adjust all their prices in exact sync, so during quick price swings you'd expect that one might fall behind with adjusting their quotes, etc.
In the end, at least theoretically, if you'd have a box, butterfly or any spread order with mostly static value already resting on options exchanges, you should be able to "catch" some occasional price misalignment and get "deals", or basically participate in market making. I'd also expect that market makers would step on each other foot and while one is adjusting their quotes, another one could arbitrage them away.
You can still find some seemingly mispriced options, but it is now common knowledge that there is no way to arbitrage them, your orders may only tighten the bid/ask around their true value. Even when occasional arbitrage opportunities still show up (tech holes in the system), they just as quickly disappear, permanently. I still see some opportunities in non-risk free semi-arbitrage, while everyone assumes that all basic risk-free options arbitrage isn't possible.
All this is fine, I would just like to understand the mechanism behind option combo prices being "locked" without room for making an extra cent on a combo like boxes, even with very wide spreads on heavily traded instruments where you'd expect retail buyers and sellers continually losing money on slippage, yet only market makers seem to be able to profit from those.
You never even hear about options traders snatching anything beyond its value, and everyone just places "regular" orders trying to get reasonable price for the purpose of making their own trade, not because they're looking for deals on options themselves.
And the practical question/purpose is whether it's even worth spending time trying to arbitrage some retail orders, and basically doing a bit of market making.
So how are risk-free option combos "guarded" against anyone else besides market makers being able to play along? Or is it still possible, or what happens when multiple retail traders have buy/sell orders on options that make up a spread at less than its value, while you may already have a resting order for such spread?
And if market makers didn't have any advantage, could it be expected to have a few box orders and other spread orders, and sometimes get them at a small discount to their value?
(some of my arguments & examples may be exaggerated and not necessarily always valid, used only for the purpose of describing the question)
In trading you'd expect that someone may let go an option a bit cheaper, or pay a bit more than it's worth (slippage that happens to everyone), and even various market makers should not be able to adjust all their prices in exact sync, so during quick price swings you'd expect that one might fall behind with adjusting their quotes, etc.
In the end, at least theoretically, if you'd have a box, butterfly or any spread order with mostly static value already resting on options exchanges, you should be able to "catch" some occasional price misalignment and get "deals", or basically participate in market making. I'd also expect that market makers would step on each other foot and while one is adjusting their quotes, another one could arbitrage them away.
You can still find some seemingly mispriced options, but it is now common knowledge that there is no way to arbitrage them, your orders may only tighten the bid/ask around their true value. Even when occasional arbitrage opportunities still show up (tech holes in the system), they just as quickly disappear, permanently. I still see some opportunities in non-risk free semi-arbitrage, while everyone assumes that all basic risk-free options arbitrage isn't possible.
All this is fine, I would just like to understand the mechanism behind option combo prices being "locked" without room for making an extra cent on a combo like boxes, even with very wide spreads on heavily traded instruments where you'd expect retail buyers and sellers continually losing money on slippage, yet only market makers seem to be able to profit from those.
You never even hear about options traders snatching anything beyond its value, and everyone just places "regular" orders trying to get reasonable price for the purpose of making their own trade, not because they're looking for deals on options themselves.
And the practical question/purpose is whether it's even worth spending time trying to arbitrage some retail orders, and basically doing a bit of market making.
So how are risk-free option combos "guarded" against anyone else besides market makers being able to play along? Or is it still possible, or what happens when multiple retail traders have buy/sell orders on options that make up a spread at less than its value, while you may already have a resting order for such spread?
And if market makers didn't have any advantage, could it be expected to have a few box orders and other spread orders, and sometimes get them at a small discount to their value?
(some of my arguments & examples may be exaggerated and not necessarily always valid, used only for the purpose of describing the question)
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