Option Question about Delta

Quote from atticus:

We are sorta attempting to talk about delta. Let's say, as a purely hypothetical exercise (recall the academic vacuum), that vola did rise to 70%. Can you approximate the 5-strike delta with shares also at 5? (Shhh, let's dream it's determinate-able).

Is this beyond your vast capabilities as a Master qu(a)nt?

I only make directional bets, as you know, atticus.

The stock would have to move many orders of magnitude greater before volatility would double, and unless you actually know what the implied volatility is after that change, it is still indeterminable, and depends on the options prices after and only after the change in volatility.
 
Quote from bwolinsky:

I only make directional bets, as you know, atticus.

The stock would have to move many orders of magnitude greater before volatility would double, and unless you actually know what the implied volatility is after that change, it is still indeterminable, and depends on the options prices after and only after the change in volatility.

This is so ridiculously misguided and patently false that I don't know where to begin. You can't possibly believe this to be true.

Beau, do not trade options.
 
Quote from atticus:

This is so ridiculously misguided and patently false that I don't know where to begin. You can't possibly believe this to be true.

Beau, do not trade options.

All right. You got me. I don't typically trade options. That's right. I can't stand non-linearity because it is a method of CBOE manipulation.

I don't see why I couldn't believe that not knowing the options prices after the volatility change could not be true.

Do you know what implied vol would be if you doubled it? I don't think you can really calculate the value of a theoretical option that used to be reality.
 
Quote from bwolinsky:

All right. You got me. I don't typically trade options. That's right. I can't stand non-linearity because it is a method of CBOE manipulation.

I don't see why I couldn't believe that not knowing the options prices after the volatility change could not be true.

I ASKED FOR THE DELTA OF THE $5 CALL WITH THE SHARES AT $5 AND A 70% VOL-INPUT. WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU?
 
Quote from atticus:

Exactly. You lose.

I've already calculated the delta for the q's option, and that much was obvious I already know how to do that.

I don't care about FTR, or about what happens to delta when you double the volatility of the underlying for those options.
 
Quote from bwolinsky:

I've already calculated the delta for the q's option, and that much was obvious I already know how to do that.

I don't care about FTR, or about what happens when you double the volatility of those options.

Beau, if you don't see the problem with this:

Quote from bwolinsky:

The probability FTR moves $1 is unlikely, and if it was likely, delta would be higher relatively speaking.

Quote from bwolinsky:

You can calculate it yourself. It won't be that different.

(asking for atm delta from a vol figure of 35% to a vol-figure of 70%)

Then you will never get it.
 
Quote from atticus:

Beau, if you don't a problem with this:



Then you will never get it.

The problem really is that I haven't slipped anywhere in options pricing consistency, and you've tried to show I don't know what an option that is $1 in the money should minimally be worth, or whether somebody that entered data for a living would know how to change an input parameter to double the value.

Which part do you think I wouldn't get? That I need to input that part or that I'd be unable to double the volatility?
 
Sorry Atticus,
You are getting your ass kicked in the shear entertainment department.

Bwolinsky,stand your ground and keep it coming..


Quote from atticus:

Probability meaning (derived from) vola? What if you double the vola from 35% to 70%? Then what is the delta of the 5C? Are you playing, or seriously injured?








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