Quote from akivak:
The problem begins when bear market comes â and in bear markers, very few newsletters deliver decent results.
Quote from spindr0:
Your iron condor is an indicator of market direction. Ignoring the 9/11 type of whacking, your iron condor is an indicator of market direction. If you see one side increasing in value and the other side idecreasing, isn't it obvious where your focus should be (management of existing positions and addition of new positions)?
Quote from akivak:
I don't care about the market direction, that's the whole point. As long as the market moves in any direction but not too strong, I'm okay.
I don't use newsletters for market recommendations so I accept your statement that the ones that you've perused/used have done poorly in bear markets. But you've missed the point.
Saying that you don't care about the market direction as long as the market moves in any direction but not too strong really is caring about market direction.
Since IC's have the potential to lose far more than the credit received (4:1 in your previous example), you should be concerned about market direction and act accordingly.
To repeat, your iron condor will tell you what you need to know, directionally. If one side isn't decaying into oblivion, it's a bit of a clue which direction the market is heading and where your focus should be. Adjustments can be made long before you get seriously into the loss zone - perhaps any of these or others:
roll the profitable side in (down for calls, up for puts)
add some more to the long leg on the problem side
reduce the short leg on the problem side
add the calendars you mentioned
roll out a month (same short strike distance or wider)
close it all down
whatever.
The problem begins when bear market comes â and in bear markers, very few newsletters deliver decent results.
Quote from spindr0:
Your iron condor is an indicator of market direction. Ignoring the 9/11 type of whacking, your iron condor is an indicator of market direction. If you see one side increasing in value and the other side idecreasing, isn't it obvious where your focus should be (management of existing positions and addition of new positions)?
Quote from akivak:
I don't care about the market direction, that's the whole point. As long as the market moves in any direction but not too strong, I'm okay.
I don't use newsletters for market recommendations so I accept your statement that the ones that you've perused/used have done poorly in bear markets. But you've missed the point.
Saying that you don't care about the market direction as long as the market moves in any direction but not too strong really is caring about market direction.
Since IC's have the potential to lose far more than the credit received (4:1 in your previous example), you should be concerned about market direction and act accordingly.
To repeat, your iron condor will tell you what you need to know, directionally. If one side isn't decaying into oblivion, it's a bit of a clue which direction the market is heading and where your focus should be. Adjustments can be made long before you get seriously into the loss zone - perhaps any of these or others:
roll the profitable side in (down for calls, up for puts)
add some more to the long leg on the problem side
reduce the short leg on the problem side
add the calendars you mentioned
roll out a month (same short strike distance or wider)
close it all down
whatever.