Oops. Why God Did Not Create the Universe

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you do not even understand what you read...
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No. You don't. I answered the question that you had posed by finding a credible site that addresses the common fallacy to which you have succumbed. I will not debate the science that neither of us has the proper grounding to understand in full, your pocketful of talking points notwithstanding.

It's astonishing how you pseudo-science guys know absolutely everything there is to know about everything. You think you know more than all of the leading scientists in all fields of study. And all this by just being armed with talking points and questionable references stemming from Right-Wing-motivated anti-climate-change, creationist, and other agenda-driven web sites. Such rugged individualists and renaissance men.
 
Oh please Gayfly. Anyone with common sense can glean the obvious from the graphs I posted. No wonder you can't.
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No. You don't. I answered the question that you had posed by finding a credible site that addresses the common fallacy to which you have succumbed. I will not debate the science that neither of us has the proper grounding to understand in full, your pocketful of talking points notwithstanding.
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I was talking about during OUR discussion of it. I don't read all your stupid posts.
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Then you haven't been paying much attention to my posts over time. I have often referred to Richard Dawkins and Ken Miller as well. Basically, I make it a point to side with the non-quack segment.
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...Anyone with common sense can glean the obvious from the graphs I posted. No wonder you can't.
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So in addition to putting geneticists and physicists in their place, you are also ready to go head to head with the world's leading climate scientists? Where does it end? Is there any field of study in which you do not reign supreme?

As for any other climate-related "common sense" questions you may have, you will find suitable responses in the FAQ section here:

http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2007/05/start-here/

Knock yourself out. Please.
 
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No. You don't. I answered the question that you had posed by finding a credible site that addresses the common fallacy to which you have succumbed. I will not debate the science that neither of us has the proper grounding to understand in full, your pocketful of talking points notwithstanding.

It's astonishing how you pseudo-science guys know absolutely everything there is to know about everything. You think you know more than all of the leading scientists in all fields of study. And all this by just being armed with talking points and questionable references stemming from Right-Wing-motivated anti-climate-change, creationist, and other agenda-driven web sites. Such rugged individualists and renaissance men.
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if you read the article you would see the author concedes that temperature rise preceeds C02 accumulation.

you are a pinhead. Here is a quote from the article....


"All that the lag shows is that CO2 did not cause the first 800 years of warming, out of the 5000 year trend. The other 4200 years of warming could in fact have been caused by CO2, as far as we can tell from this ice core data."


let me show you how stupid your argument was....

your author admits CO2 lagged temperature at the beginning of warming cycles... and implicitly admits no one has any idea what causes the next 4200 years of warming.

My point exactly.

I am waiting for evidence.
 
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I think you missed this part in the text:

Does this prove that CO2 doesn’t cause global warming? The answer is no.

This is, after all, the issue with which you are in dispute, is it not? And so, I will concede that one of us is a pinhead.
 
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Wtf, this thread's about climate now?
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It really shouldn't come as a surprise. With few exceptions, climate change deniers are creationists. It has become something of a rule of thumb. If you will recall, not so long ago, some of the very same members of that contingent had referred to claims of smoking hazards as pseudo-science. When that fight didn't end so well for them, some of the very same lobbyists and their "scientists" jumped from Big Tobacco's purse straight into Big Oil's pocketbook. It's all about agenda and the useful idiots on the periphery who help make it happen.
 
Gayfly, you've amply demonstrated you're not capable of scientific or rational thought or an honest debate, so I'll make this very simple.

Your constant appeal to authority (argumentum ad verecundiam) is defective deduction and shows you can't think for yourself in two ways. First, you meekly accept whatever any science, philosophy, or whatever "god" says, no matter how silly. Second, you hide behind your "gods'" apron strings like a child when you're getting your ass whipped in a debate.

Reading a graph made from ice core samples isn't speculative physics and any moderately educated, rational human should be able to draw the obvious conclusion I gave to you at this link which is, there's a lot more than CO2 causing the warming cycles and they've been happening long before humans had any input.
http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=2949730#post2949730

If you lack the knowledge and common sense of a child and need a science "god," how about Al Gore's? Professor Richard Alley says that ice core samples are the gold standard and reluctantly comes to the same conclusion in this video: http://www.agu.org/meetings/fm09/lectures/lecture_videos/A23A.shtml
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So in addition to putting geneticists and physicists in their place, you are also ready to go head to head with the world's leading climate scientists? Where does it end? Is there any field of study in which you do not reign supreme?

As for any other climate-related "common sense" questions you may have, you will find suitable responses in the FAQ section here:

http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2007/05/start-here/

Knock yourself out. Please.
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