Oops. Why God Did Not Create the Universe

[res judicata]

Quote from Kassz007:

Can you not see the parallel arguments here? Nobody can prove there are multiple universes. Nobody can prove there is a god.

You accuse stu of being stuck in an atheist bullshitter loop, but you yourself are stuck in a god bullshitter loop.

Neither side can prove definitively one way or the other. We must simply look at the facts and determine which is MOST LIKELY (not definitively).

Given the current facts available, I believe that the probability there is a god is less than the probability that there isn't. If this makes me an atheist then so be it.

My beef is that I believe there is enough evidence AGAINST god (again, not definitive, but enough to skew the probabilities) that I shouldn't have to have god and religion shoved down my throat by politicians, people, etc. , shouldn't have to pay my full taxes while organized religion gets tax breaks, etc. etc.

Stu for years has been saying there is no evidence of a Creator.

I have been saying that top scientists say our universe appears designed.

You tell me who is in the bullshit loop?

thats right stu, I am typing on my office machine.
you know non trolls leave their cave.

 

[Optionpro007]

Irrefutable proof that we are indeed the center of the universe....



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[omegapoint]

Quote from Optionpro007:

Irrefutable proof that we are indeed the center of the universe....



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Look at all the phallic geological artifacts, therefore God created the Universe. But you don't get to use agnostic arguments to defend christianity. Whatever or however existence came into being is beyond the realm of even the most studied
physicists in history and esp. ambitious primitive sheep herders.
Nice music and film though, was that Wagner?

 

[Optionpro007]

Quote from omegapoint:


was that Wagner?

No idea.

 

[stu]

Quote from omegapoint:


Whatever or however existence came into being is beyond the realm of even the most studied physicists in history ....

....except that, the laws of physics allow a universe to be created out of nothing.

 

[omegapoint]

Quote from stu:

....except that, the laws of physics allow a universe to be created out of nothing.

Theres a sequece for how science posits towards Truth, it goes GTFOH --> HYPOTHESIS --> THEORY --> LAW. What you're hinting at is The Big Bang THEORY, not law. Whereas Lester Hillbilly on too many of my cable channels, with his dyed black hair and the too expensive for his brainpower suit thinks that HE knows the answer to the source of our very existence. Think of scientists as the bottom line in who is credible as detectives for the Truth. No, scientists aren't nearly as cocksure about how Existence began before the Theory of the Big Bang and probably never will be; they have too much integrity for that. If we admit that Existence can be explained by reason the possibility for Existence is destroyed.

 

[Lucrum]

Quote from stu:

....except that, the laws of physics allow a universe to be created out of nothing.

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[jem]

Quote from stu:

....except that, the laws of physics allow a universe to be created out of nothing.

You keep saying that - yet you refuse to explain how...
You really do not want to admit that you are using that statement without understanding it.

 

[Trader666]

Like the "law" of gravity? I hate to break it to you but human physicists only have THEORIES of gravitation.

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Quote from STUpid:

....except that, the laws of physics allow a universe to be created out of nothing.

 

[stu]

Quote from jem:

You keep saying that - yet you refuse to explain how...
You really do not want to admit that you are using that statement without understanding it.

I admit I am using that statement without you understanding it.