Oops! Sorry little guy, Obama screws you again.

[phenomena]

Slash taxes= allow people to keep more of what they earn = people earn more = overall size of pie increases

Hong Kong and Switzerland both have public option style insurance schemes with reasonable income tax rates, no capital gains tax, and far lower corporate tax than the USA.

Quote from bigdavediode:

I haven't seen anyone else give concrete steps to reducing the budget deficit, except for ridiculous things like "If we slash taxes the debt will go down!" (Which is just dumb.)

 

[bigdavediode]

Quote from phenomena:

Slash taxes= allow people to keep more of what they earn = people earn more = overall size of pie increases

Baloney. Republicans slash taxes, then don't pay for them, then put it on the credit card. See years 2000-2006.

 

[bigdavediode]

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I wasn't really referring to the this, I was referring to the BS HDI, something about let babies die, and something about Uruguay.

I thought it was a pretty obvious point that priorities are different among different populations, that some value maternal health over anything else, and some value independence and self-reliance higher. Or are you referring to the fact that HDI scores are higher in more mixed economies? Again, that's fact, not up for debate and yes, not worth discussing.

You haven't seen any concrete steps to reduce budget deficits because 0bomba's SPENDING is the problem. I can't put my finger on how libtards view it as a taxing problem when spending is the issue, really it is that straight forward, control spending.

Is it? Bush left the country with two wars ongoing, both have to be paid for -- one to remove troops, and the other to try and win it. You want this spending cut, then the troops will be left without a ride home.

 

[Trader666]

How about this littledaviedumbass:
http://www.roadmap.republicans.budget.house.gov/

Or does a self proclaimed "fiscal conservative" like you prefer Obamanomics:

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Quote from bigdavediode:

I haven't seen anyone else give concrete steps to reducing the budget deficit, except for ridiculous things like "If we slash taxes the debt will go down!" (Which is just dumb.)

 

[phenomena]

I didn't say anything about republicans? Why did you respond to my comment by mentioning republicans? I never endorsed Bush as a model of economic efficiency. Nice strawman though...

Quote from bigdavediode:

Baloney. Republicans slash taxes, then don't pay for them, then put it on the credit card. See years 2000-2006.

 

[Mnphats]

Quote from bigdavediode:

I thought it was a pretty obvious point that priorities are different among different populations, that some value maternal health over anything else, and some value independence and self-reliance higher. Or are you referring to the fact that HDI scores are higher in more mixed economies? Again, that's fact, not up for debate and yes, not worth discussing.



Is it? Bush left the country with two wars ongoing, both have to be paid for -- one to remove troops, and the other to try and win it. You want this spending cut, then the troops will be left without a ride home.

Use the Popsicle Index for all I care, they are useless.


I am talking NOW not Bush. Besides 0dumba has put Bush to shame in the spending department, but yeah I couldn't stand Bush's spending either.

 

[bigdavediode]

Quote from Trader666:

How about this littledaviedumbass:
http://www.roadmap.republicans.budget.house.gov/

That reminds me of the wife who goes back to her abusive husband because he really, really, really promises not to beat her again this time.

So far, so good on the Democrats' budget. The short term projections are for a reduced deficit and I don't put much stock in long term projections.

 

[phenomena]

I suggest lower taxes and this is what he says, when I never mentioned republicans or endorsed Bush or anything. He just offered a strawman.

Me: Switzerland and HK have lower income and corporate taxes, and don't have cap gains tax. I think we should try to follow a model like that...

Dave: Oh yeah? Well republicans are bad!!!

WTF?!

Quote from bigdavediode:

Baloney. Republicans slash taxes, then don't pay for them, then put it on the credit card. See years 2000-2006.

 

[bigdavediode]

Quote from Mnphats:

Use the Popsicle Index for all I care, they are useless.


I am talking NOW not Bush. Besides 0dumba has put Bush to shame in the spending department, but yeah I couldn't stand Bush's spending either.

I'm talking NOW too. The situation is that the war budgets have to be paid for now. Withdrawal has to be paid for.

 

[zdreg]

slash the number of government employees by 25% or the number of hours they work by 25%. declare bankruptcy and slash government pensions by 25%.have a flat tax on the back of the post card. call the flat tax a progressive tax which it is because there is an exemption for each person. privatize most services starting with post office etc.

the budget will be in balance in short order.