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One World Gov/New World Order/Conspiracy
- Thread starter MondoTrader
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Good posts.
There maybe a good chance for US-UK-Russia to be the enforcing arm of the new system. US leading all the way especially when oil or other special interests are involved.
So, what will happen to non complying nations? Put a tax lien on them, then foreclose, and finally go invade and take them over completely?
Of course it would make great testing grounds for new technologies, conventional and non conventional arms etc.
Josh
There maybe a good chance for US-UK-Russia to be the enforcing arm of the new system. US leading all the way especially when oil or other special interests are involved.
So, what will happen to non complying nations? Put a tax lien on them, then foreclose, and finally go invade and take them over completely?
Of course it would make great testing grounds for new technologies, conventional and non conventional arms etc.
Josh
What amazes me is how successfull the main stream media and liberals have been at suppressing and ridiculing the people that tell the truth.
what amazes me is that there are huge supporters of Globalism in both parties. This problem crosses party lines in a big way. There are some dems against it on the basis of labor competition and wages, and there are some Reps against it basically on the grounds of sovereighnty. But, I would say that the majority of members of congress are basically Globalist in viewpoint regardless of party affiliation. That will continue until the public can see behind the smokescreen of the media and the nervous laughter of pundits on TV.
Wellstone Plane Crash Media Survey - Updated
They were no longer in control of the aircraft." said Don Sipola, a former president of the Eveleth Virginia Municipal Airport Commission, who has 25 years of experience flying at the airport. "That will be the $64 question---what occurred in the last few minutes that distracted them or caused them to wrestle control of the aircraft."
Bill King, vice president of Cirrus Design Corp., a Duluth-based manufacturer of smaller single-engine airplanes, said King Air enjoys a reputation as one of the most safe and capable turboprops around.
"The word that comes to mind is 'bulletproof,"' he said.
King said it remains to be seen whether ice played a role in Friday's crash, and he said the boot system employed on the King Air is "a highly respected, highly tested system."
"Something went catastrophically wrong. I don't think this was pilot error," he said.
The aircraft's safety record is particularly impressive considering its widespread use.
Brian Ryks, executive director of the Duluth Airport Authority, said he'd have no reservations about stepping aboard a King Air in Friday morning's weather conditions.
"Performance on take off and landing was suberb. I mean, its got power to spare," Kirton said. "You take off and lose an engine, most folks could bring it down very, very easily on one engine and land a perfectly normal landing."
Johnson noted the King Air 100 has a flexible, boot-like device on the leading edges of the wings that the pilot can make "expand like a balloon to break ice off."
The pilots of Wellstone's plane... Conry had nearly 5200 hours of flying time and the highest certification a pilot can attain, his company said. Guess had 650 hours and was certified as a commerical pilot; he graduated from UND's aeronautics program.
As CNN First Reported: Breaking News.
The crews on the ground found two large sections of plane. The tail section was intact. The weather did not have anything to do with the crash, said the on the scene reporter.
Wolf Blitzer tried to correct her.
He said, The plane was flying into the storm of freezing rain, right?
"There is no evidence that weather had anything to do with the crash."
The on-the-scene reporter stuck to her guns.
However, the team was able to make this significant discovery: the plane's landing flaps, which allow a slower and steeper approach to a runway, were extended 15 degrees on EACH wing.
This information tends to discount the possibility, discussed by some local pilots, that one flap may have malfunctioned, putting them in different "asymmetric" positions and causing the plane to slowly turn 90 degrees from its westward approach to the runway in the moments before the crash.
"Investigators...have ruled out physical problems with the pilots and one important piece of equipment."
Another pilot who landed a slightly larger twin engine plane at the airport on Friday, a couple of hours before Wellstone's plane crashed, said in an interview that he experienced no significant problems.
Veteran pilot Ray Juntunen said there was very light ice, "but nothing to be alarmed about. It shouldn't have been a problem."
According to the NTSB, Wellstone's pilots received warnings of icing at 9,000 to 11,000 feet and were allowed to descend to 4,000 feet
Radar tapes indicate the plane had descended to about 400 feet and was traveling at only 85 knots near the end of its flight. It then turned south, dove at an unusually steep angle and crashed
Whatever happened, happened very quickly after they clicked up the runway lights....right after a precise, one-time signal was sent to activate the runway lights. Could that same one-time signal have activated something else?
Only one pilot was required to fly the King Air A100 but they had two as an extra precaution for safety.
Eight people were killed in this King Air A100 plane crash. That is as many as have been killed in the previous 27 years according to the FAA.
politics in play?
He pushed stronger environmental programs while Bush pushed the opposite way.
He pushed hard for genuine measures to counter corporate fraud while Bush pushed for cosmetic ones.
Wellstone was also the lead voice in the Senate, pushing for the investigation of the missing $350 million from the Bureau of Indian Affairs. This is the affair in which Secretary of Interior Gale Norton has twice taken the Fifth Amendment and refused to answer questions about how $350 million disappeared late in the Reagan-Bush administration.
Paul Wellstone is a hunted man. Minnesota's senior senator is not just another Democrat on White House political czar Karl Rove's target list, in an election year when the Senate balance of power could be decided by the voters of a single state. Rather, getting rid of Wellstone is a passion for Rove, Dick Cheney, George W. Bush and the special-interest lobbies that fund the most sophisticated political operation ever assembled by a presidential administration. "There are people in the White House who wake up in the morning thinking about how they will defeat Paul Wellstone," a senior Republican aide confides. "This one is political and personal for them."
"They have made it very clear that if they could beat one Democrat this year, it would be Paul Wellstone," says Minnesota political consultant Richman. "Paul gets under their skin." "When I first met the President, he called me 'Pablo,'" Wellstone jokes. "That lasted a day or two. Then they started trying to figure out how they were going to get rid of me."
He pushed hard for an independent 9-11 investigation over Bush and Cheney's strongest objections.
Wellstone voted against giving Bush a free hand to invade Iraq and it actually increased his popularity here in Minn. He was pulling ahead of Coleman and it looked like he would win reelection.
Was it sabotage, assassination or an accident? You decide
http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0211/S00013.htm
I wonder if NSTB or anyone else tested for explosives or any other "funny substances and residues" or the case is closed.
Josh
They were no longer in control of the aircraft." said Don Sipola, a former president of the Eveleth Virginia Municipal Airport Commission, who has 25 years of experience flying at the airport. "That will be the $64 question---what occurred in the last few minutes that distracted them or caused them to wrestle control of the aircraft."
Bill King, vice president of Cirrus Design Corp., a Duluth-based manufacturer of smaller single-engine airplanes, said King Air enjoys a reputation as one of the most safe and capable turboprops around.
"The word that comes to mind is 'bulletproof,"' he said.
King said it remains to be seen whether ice played a role in Friday's crash, and he said the boot system employed on the King Air is "a highly respected, highly tested system."
"Something went catastrophically wrong. I don't think this was pilot error," he said.
The aircraft's safety record is particularly impressive considering its widespread use.
Brian Ryks, executive director of the Duluth Airport Authority, said he'd have no reservations about stepping aboard a King Air in Friday morning's weather conditions.
"Performance on take off and landing was suberb. I mean, its got power to spare," Kirton said. "You take off and lose an engine, most folks could bring it down very, very easily on one engine and land a perfectly normal landing."
Johnson noted the King Air 100 has a flexible, boot-like device on the leading edges of the wings that the pilot can make "expand like a balloon to break ice off."
The pilots of Wellstone's plane... Conry had nearly 5200 hours of flying time and the highest certification a pilot can attain, his company said. Guess had 650 hours and was certified as a commerical pilot; he graduated from UND's aeronautics program.
As CNN First Reported: Breaking News.
The crews on the ground found two large sections of plane. The tail section was intact. The weather did not have anything to do with the crash, said the on the scene reporter.
Wolf Blitzer tried to correct her.
He said, The plane was flying into the storm of freezing rain, right?
"There is no evidence that weather had anything to do with the crash."
The on-the-scene reporter stuck to her guns.
However, the team was able to make this significant discovery: the plane's landing flaps, which allow a slower and steeper approach to a runway, were extended 15 degrees on EACH wing.
This information tends to discount the possibility, discussed by some local pilots, that one flap may have malfunctioned, putting them in different "asymmetric" positions and causing the plane to slowly turn 90 degrees from its westward approach to the runway in the moments before the crash.
"Investigators...have ruled out physical problems with the pilots and one important piece of equipment."
Another pilot who landed a slightly larger twin engine plane at the airport on Friday, a couple of hours before Wellstone's plane crashed, said in an interview that he experienced no significant problems.
Veteran pilot Ray Juntunen said there was very light ice, "but nothing to be alarmed about. It shouldn't have been a problem."
According to the NTSB, Wellstone's pilots received warnings of icing at 9,000 to 11,000 feet and were allowed to descend to 4,000 feet
Radar tapes indicate the plane had descended to about 400 feet and was traveling at only 85 knots near the end of its flight. It then turned south, dove at an unusually steep angle and crashed
Whatever happened, happened very quickly after they clicked up the runway lights....right after a precise, one-time signal was sent to activate the runway lights. Could that same one-time signal have activated something else?
Only one pilot was required to fly the King Air A100 but they had two as an extra precaution for safety.
Eight people were killed in this King Air A100 plane crash. That is as many as have been killed in the previous 27 years according to the FAA.
politics in play?
He pushed stronger environmental programs while Bush pushed the opposite way.
He pushed hard for genuine measures to counter corporate fraud while Bush pushed for cosmetic ones.
Wellstone was also the lead voice in the Senate, pushing for the investigation of the missing $350 million from the Bureau of Indian Affairs. This is the affair in which Secretary of Interior Gale Norton has twice taken the Fifth Amendment and refused to answer questions about how $350 million disappeared late in the Reagan-Bush administration.
Paul Wellstone is a hunted man. Minnesota's senior senator is not just another Democrat on White House political czar Karl Rove's target list, in an election year when the Senate balance of power could be decided by the voters of a single state. Rather, getting rid of Wellstone is a passion for Rove, Dick Cheney, George W. Bush and the special-interest lobbies that fund the most sophisticated political operation ever assembled by a presidential administration. "There are people in the White House who wake up in the morning thinking about how they will defeat Paul Wellstone," a senior Republican aide confides. "This one is political and personal for them."
"They have made it very clear that if they could beat one Democrat this year, it would be Paul Wellstone," says Minnesota political consultant Richman. "Paul gets under their skin." "When I first met the President, he called me 'Pablo,'" Wellstone jokes. "That lasted a day or two. Then they started trying to figure out how they were going to get rid of me."
He pushed hard for an independent 9-11 investigation over Bush and Cheney's strongest objections.
Wellstone voted against giving Bush a free hand to invade Iraq and it actually increased his popularity here in Minn. He was pulling ahead of Coleman and it looked like he would win reelection.
Was it sabotage, assassination or an accident? You decide
http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0211/S00013.htm
I wonder if NSTB or anyone else tested for explosives or any other "funny substances and residues" or the case is closed.
Josh
It's a legitimate question journalists must feel free to ask
November 7, 2002âSoon after the news of Minnesota Sen. Paul Wellstone's death hit the wires, I got a phone call in the newsroom of radio station KPFA in Berkeley, Calif. The caller was a listener who said that, after hearing of Wellstone's death, he called the Washington, DC, office of Sen. Barbara Boxer (D- Calif) to urge that the senator get the Canadian government to investigate the circumstances of Wellstone's plane crash. The listener also said that Boxer's staff told him that they were getting "flooded with calls," urging that the Canadians or some other foreign government investigate the crash.
Those of us who look askance at "coincidence theory" are wondering, "What are the odds that two Democratic Senate candidates, in two closely contested races important to the Bush camp, would die in purely accidental plane crashes in the waning days of their campaigns in two consecutive election cycles?"
Then again, maybe shortly after the pilots clicked on the runway lights, a stray loon flew into the windscreen, shattering it, knocking out both pilots who slumped over their controls causing the plane to take a steep dive into the ground.
Sound journalism, especially in today's political climate, asks both questions. Lily-Livered Leftists, concerned with being "discredited," (by whom?) discredit themselves by closing off the possibility of foul play.
----->What reason is there to believe that there is some magical, moral bright line that these political actors who have committed atrocities abroad would refuse to cross in pursuing their agenda at home? The notion that there would never be criminal conspiracies among the highest echelons of American politics is at best naïve grade school patriotism and at worst it's "them not us" racism.<-----
But what if gaining that particular Senate seat was not the main goal? What if the main goal was to intimidate members of Congress? I think that has been tried also, in the form of anthrax letters sent to Democratic leaders during the debate on the USA PATRIOT Act. It's worth noting that the anthrax was American-made and the attacks stopped once that unconstitutional abomination was passed. ***
----->Whenever someone says, "Don't go there. Don't ask about that. Don't investigate that," as Dick Cheney is saying about 9â11, that is the first place a reporter should go, ask about and investigate. Anything else allows gatekeepers to limit the scope of the reporter's search for truth<-----
http://www.onlinejournal.com/Media/Ramares110702/ramares110702.html
*** Interesting observation. Another coincidence?
Another 20-30 years and maybe we'll get to the bottom of this?
"In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, it was planned that way".
- Franklin D. Roosevelt
Josh
November 7, 2002âSoon after the news of Minnesota Sen. Paul Wellstone's death hit the wires, I got a phone call in the newsroom of radio station KPFA in Berkeley, Calif. The caller was a listener who said that, after hearing of Wellstone's death, he called the Washington, DC, office of Sen. Barbara Boxer (D- Calif) to urge that the senator get the Canadian government to investigate the circumstances of Wellstone's plane crash. The listener also said that Boxer's staff told him that they were getting "flooded with calls," urging that the Canadians or some other foreign government investigate the crash.
Those of us who look askance at "coincidence theory" are wondering, "What are the odds that two Democratic Senate candidates, in two closely contested races important to the Bush camp, would die in purely accidental plane crashes in the waning days of their campaigns in two consecutive election cycles?"
Then again, maybe shortly after the pilots clicked on the runway lights, a stray loon flew into the windscreen, shattering it, knocking out both pilots who slumped over their controls causing the plane to take a steep dive into the ground.
Sound journalism, especially in today's political climate, asks both questions. Lily-Livered Leftists, concerned with being "discredited," (by whom?) discredit themselves by closing off the possibility of foul play.
----->What reason is there to believe that there is some magical, moral bright line that these political actors who have committed atrocities abroad would refuse to cross in pursuing their agenda at home? The notion that there would never be criminal conspiracies among the highest echelons of American politics is at best naïve grade school patriotism and at worst it's "them not us" racism.<-----
But what if gaining that particular Senate seat was not the main goal? What if the main goal was to intimidate members of Congress? I think that has been tried also, in the form of anthrax letters sent to Democratic leaders during the debate on the USA PATRIOT Act. It's worth noting that the anthrax was American-made and the attacks stopped once that unconstitutional abomination was passed. ***
----->Whenever someone says, "Don't go there. Don't ask about that. Don't investigate that," as Dick Cheney is saying about 9â11, that is the first place a reporter should go, ask about and investigate. Anything else allows gatekeepers to limit the scope of the reporter's search for truth<-----
http://www.onlinejournal.com/Media/Ramares110702/ramares110702.html
*** Interesting observation. Another coincidence?
Another 20-30 years and maybe we'll get to the bottom of this?
"In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, it was planned that way".
- Franklin D. Roosevelt
Josh
WASHINGTON - 05.15.01 | As President Bush prepares to travel to Minnesota to present his plan to address the future energy needs of the nation, U.S. Senator Paul Wellstone (D-MN) today joined Senator Mark Dayton to issue a strong challenge in a letter to the President to restore deep cuts in his budget to Renewable Energy Funds vital to Minnesota's future economic growth. The Bush budget for 2002 slashes funds from the Department of Energy's programs for renewable energy research into clean sources like wind and solar power, ethanol and biodiesel by 50%, at the same time the President is calling for government-backed fossil fuel exploration and power plant building.
"The big oil companies don't want our country to move to renewable energy development. They support more drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge and the weakening of environmental, health and safety standards. Minnesota is a cold-weather state at the wrong end of the fossil fuels pipeline; we import nearly all of our energy today. Reducing our dependence on unsustainable fossil fuels will take far-sighted policy, and Minnesota can help lead the way....
Wellstone also challenged Bush to make a substantive commitment to the largely untapped energy produced by America's farmers: ethanol and biodiesel. It would decrease the need for imported petroleum products, help improve air quality across the country by reducing carbon monoxide and other toxic emissions, and provide an important economic stimulus to rural America. A 3% market share for ethanol and biodiesel, which Wellstone is pushing, would replace about 9 billion gallons of gasoline annually or between 500,000 and 600,000 barrels of crude oil each day. .....
http://www.truthout.org/docs_01/0232.Wellstone.Energy.htm
Of course.. how can oil interests not being involved?
Josh
"The big oil companies don't want our country to move to renewable energy development. They support more drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge and the weakening of environmental, health and safety standards. Minnesota is a cold-weather state at the wrong end of the fossil fuels pipeline; we import nearly all of our energy today. Reducing our dependence on unsustainable fossil fuels will take far-sighted policy, and Minnesota can help lead the way....
Wellstone also challenged Bush to make a substantive commitment to the largely untapped energy produced by America's farmers: ethanol and biodiesel. It would decrease the need for imported petroleum products, help improve air quality across the country by reducing carbon monoxide and other toxic emissions, and provide an important economic stimulus to rural America. A 3% market share for ethanol and biodiesel, which Wellstone is pushing, would replace about 9 billion gallons of gasoline annually or between 500,000 and 600,000 barrels of crude oil each day. .....
http://www.truthout.org/docs_01/0232.Wellstone.Energy.htm
Of course.. how can oil interests not being involved?
Josh
hmm...
and they released this at 5:30 on a Friday?
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Kissinger Quits As Chairman of 9/11 Panel
By Ron Fournier
AP White House Correspondent
Friday, December 13, 2002; 5:30 PM
WASHINGTON ââ Former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger stepped down Friday as chairman of a panel investigating the Sept. 11 attacks, citing controversy over potential conflicts of interest with his private-sector clients.
"It is clear that, although specific potential conflicts can be resolved in this manner, the controversy would quickly move to the consulting firm I have built and own," Kissinger wrote in a letter to President Bush, who appointed him. "I have, therefore, concluded that I cannot accept the responsibility you proposed."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A51619-2002Dec13.html
and they released this at 5:30 on a Friday?
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Kissinger Quits As Chairman of 9/11 Panel
By Ron Fournier
AP White House Correspondent
Friday, December 13, 2002; 5:30 PM
WASHINGTON ââ Former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger stepped down Friday as chairman of a panel investigating the Sept. 11 attacks, citing controversy over potential conflicts of interest with his private-sector clients.
"It is clear that, although specific potential conflicts can be resolved in this manner, the controversy would quickly move to the consulting firm I have built and own," Kissinger wrote in a letter to President Bush, who appointed him. "I have, therefore, concluded that I cannot accept the responsibility you proposed."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A51619-2002Dec13.html