One World Gov/New World Order/Conspiracy

Originally posted by logikos
The U.N. is already trying to incorporate a world tax - you know, take a chunk of money from your paycheck (since you obviously are a rich guy) and send it to some third world country to buy a load to grain to feed the poor........
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actually i think the current M.O. is for the IMF/world Bank to loan them the money for "social" programs....then that gets out of hand...then a huge unpayable debt is built up...the third world country defaults and then the American taxpayer bails everyone out!!!!! so basically we get to work half the year just to pay interest on all this debt....it's a great con if you're on the right side!!!!!!
 
interesting read, some of it scary and it makes sense too.

"The CFR is the American Branch of a society which originated in England, and which believes that national boundaries should be obliterated, and a one-world rule established."

"The most powerful clique in these elitist groups have one objective in common — they want to bring about the surrender of the sovereingty of the national independence of the United States. A second clique of international members in the CFR comprises the Wall Street international bankers and their key agents. Primarily, they want the world banking monopoly from whatever power ends up in the control of global government."

"The ultimate aim of the CFR is to create a one-world socialist system, and to make the U.S. an official part of it."

"Does it not seem strange to you that these men just happened to be CFR and just happened to be on the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve, that absolutely controls the money and interest rates of this great country without benefit of Congress? A privately owned organization, the Federal Reserve, which has absolutely nothing to do with the United States of America!"

Congressmen John R. Rarick had warned:

"The CFR, dedicated to one-world government, financed by a number of the largest tax-exempt foundations, and wielding such power and influence over our lives in the areas of finance, business, labor, military, education, and mass communication-media, should be familiar to every American concerned with good government, and with preserving and defending the U.S. Constitution and our free-enterprise system. Yet, the nation’s right-to-know machinery, the news media, usually so aggressive in exposures to inform our people, remain conspicuously silent when it comes to the CFR, its members and their activities.

"The effects of the Council on Foreign Relation and The Trilateral Commission on the affaires of our nation is easy to see. Our own Government no longer acts in its own interest, we no longer win any wars we fight, and we constantly tie ourselves to international agreements, pacts, and conventions

http://www.prolognet.qc.ca/clyde/cfr.html


Josh
 
Bryan, your description is probably much more accurate. My quote was more tongue-in-cheek.

I personally just entered middle age (41), so by the time all this comes about, I will probably be an old man and had lived most my life in "relative" freedom. However, I have 2 sons that have never had the privilege of the fearless childhood that I had, and by the time they are my age, possibly be enslaved by this mindless system of world government.

The Biblical book of Revelations is not the only reference to this end-times scenario, but also can be found in Thessolonians, Timothy, and even back in the Old Testament, the book of Daniel, among others. I'm not a biblical scholar by any stretch of the imagination, but the situations they are describing weren't happening in their day. Whatever your religious conviction (if any), the "foresight" of scripture is rather eerie.
 
Originally posted by MondoTrader
1984 ring a bell ?
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hmm...

Learning To Love Big Brother

George Bush Channels George Orwell

Daniel Kurtzman is a San Francisco writer and former Washington political correspondent.

San Francisco Chronicle, July 28, 2002



Here's a question for constitutional scholars: Can a sitting president be charged with plagiarism?

As President Bush wages his war against terrorism and moves to create a huge homeland security apparatus, he appears to be borrowing heavily, if not ripping off ideas outright, from George Orwell. The work in question is 1984, the prophetic novel about a government that controls the masses by spreading propaganda, cracking down on subversive thought and altering history to suit its needs. It was intended to be read as a warning about the evils of totalitarianism -- not a how-to manual.

Granted, we're a long way from resembling the kind of authoritarian state Orwell depicted, but some of the similarities are starting to get a bit eerie.



Permanent War
In 1984, the state remained perpetually at war against a vague and ever-changing enemy. The war took place largely in the abstract, but it served as a convenient vehicle to fuel hatred, nurture fear and justify the regime's autocratic practices.

Bush's war against terrorism has become almost as amorphous. Although we are told the president's resolve is steady and the mission clear, we seem to know less and less about the enemy we are fighting. What began as a war against Osama bin Laden and al Qaeda quickly morphed into a war against Afghanistan, followed by dire warnings about an "Axis of Evil," the targeting of terrorists in some 50 to 60 countries, and now the beginnings of a major campaign against Iraq. Exactly what will constitute success in this war remains unclear, but the one thing the Bush administration has made certain is that the war will continue "indefinitely."



Ministry Of Truth
Serving as the propaganda arm of the ruling party in 1984, the Ministry of Truth not only spread lies to suit its strategic goals, but constantly rewrote and falsified history. It is a practice that has become increasingly commonplace in the Bush White House, where presidential transcripts are routinely sanitized to remove the president's gaffes, accounts of intelligence warnings prior to September 11 get spottier with each retelling, and the facts surrounding Bush's past financial dealings are subject to continual revision.

Bush administration officials even admitted earlier this year that they were toying with the idea of entering the state-sanctioned propaganda business. In February, news emerged that the Pentagon had created an Office of Strategic Influence that was considering, among other things, planting deliberately false news stories in the foreign press to help manipulate public opinion and further its military objectives. Following a public outcry, the Pentagon said it would close the office -- news that would have sounded more convincing had it not come from a place that just announced it was planning to spread misinformation.



Infallible Leader
An omnipresent and all-powerful leader, Big Brother commanded the total, unquestioning support of the people. He was both adored and feared, and no one dared speak out against him, lest they be met by the wrath of the state.

President Bush may not be as menacing a figure, but he has hardly concealed his desire for greater powers. Never mind that he has casually mentioned -- on no fewer than three occasions -- how much easier things would be if he were dictator. By brushing aside many of the checks and balances established in the Constitution to keep any one branch of government from becoming too powerful, Bush has already achieved the greatest expansion of executive powers since Nixon. His approval ratings remain remarkably high, and his minions have worked hard to cultivate an image of infallibility. Nowhere was that more apparent than during a commencement address Bush delivered in June at Ohio State, where students were threatened with arrest and expulsion if they protested the speech.



Big Brother Is Watching
The ever-watchful eye of Big Brother kept constant tabs on the citizens of Orwell's totalitarian state, using two-way telescreens to monitor people's every move while simultaneously broadcasting party propaganda.

While that technology may not have arrived yet, public video surveillance has become all the rage in law enforcement, with cameras being deployed everywhere from sporting events to public beaches. Despite congressional objections, the Bush administration still plans to implement a scaled down version of its Operation TIPS program, in which ordinary Americans would form a corps of citizen spies to serve as "extra eyes and ears for law enforcement," reporting any suspicious terrorist-related activity.

And thanks to the hastily passed USA Patriot Act, which received strong bipartisan backing in Congress, the Justice Department has sweeping new powers to monitor phone conversations, Internet usage, business transactions and library reading records. Best of all, law enforcement need not be burdened any longer with such inconveniences as probable cause.



Thought Police
Charged with eradicating dissent and ferreting out resistance, the ever-present Thought Police described in 1984 carefully monitored all unorthodox or potentially subversive thoughts. The Bush administration is not prosecuting thought crime yet, but members have been quick to question the patriotism of anyone who dares criticize their handling of the war on terrorism or homeland defense. Take, for example, the way Attorney General John Ashcroft answered critics of his anti-terrorism measures, saying that opponents of the administration "only aid terrorists" and "give ammunition to America's enemies."

Even more ominous was the stern warning White House Press Secretary Ari Fleischer sent to Americans after Bill Maher, host of the now defunct "Politically Incorrect," called past U.S. military actions "cowardly." Said Fleischer, "There are reminders to all Americans that they need to watch what they say, watch what they do, and this is not a time for remarks like that; there never is."

What would it take to turn America into the kind of society that Orwell warned about, a society that envisions war as peace, freedom as slavery and ignorance as strength? Would it happen overnight, or would it involve a gradual erosion of freedoms with the people's consent?

Because we are a nation at war -- as we are constantly reminded -- most Americans say they are willing to sacrifice many of our freedoms in return for the promise of greater security. We have been asked to put our blind faith in government and most of us have done so with patriotic fervor. But when the government abuses that trust and begins to stamp out the freedom of dissent that is the hallmark of a democratic society, can there be any turning back?

So powerful was the state's control over people's minds in 1984 that, eventually, everyone came to love Big Brother. Perhaps in time we all will, too.

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Civil_Liberties/Big_Brother.html

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unfortunately, big brother tactics are not even a new development:

Secret FBI files reveal covert activities at UC
Bureau's campus operations involved Reagan, CIA
Seth Rosenfeld, Chronicle Staff Writer Sunday, June 9, 2002

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Under the guise of protecting national security, the FBI conducted wide-ranging and unlawful intelligence operations concerning the University of California that at different points involved the head of the CIA and then-Gov. Ronald Reagan, The Chronicle has learned.

According to thousands of pages of FBI records obtained by The Chronicle after a 17-year legal fight, the FBI unlawfully schemed with the head of the CIA to harass students, faculty and members of the Board of Regents, and mounted a concerted campaign to destroy the career of UC President Clark Kerr, which included sending the White House derogatory allegations about him that the bureau knew were false.

...cont.

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/chronicle/archive/2002/06/09/MNCFLEADIN.DTL
 
Much prefer governments like the following;
Mike Bloomberg
John Kennedy
King Solomon
Ronald Reagan

Its not just they are tax cutters and freedom lovers ;contrast that with the United Nations which is full of Anti-Semites and new taxes,like internet taxes.:mad:



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''Big government is NOT the solution it is the problem'' Kindly quote - Ronald Reagan:)
 
it was completed 1941 !!!!

amazing some of their "predictions or plans" have come to pass.

http://www.penncrier.com/penncrier/pcnwompt.html

A new world order for permanent peace and freedom will be established at the end of the War.

The U.S.A. must, altruistically, assume the leadership of the newly established world order.

The U.S.A., Britain, and the U.S.S.R. will undertake to guarantee peace to the nations, which will be permanently disarmed and demilitarized.

The U.S.A. will become invincible as a military, naval, and air power


or maybe just some common sense from the people in the know back then?

Josh
 
amazing some of their "predictions or plans" have come to pass.

If you make bunch of predictions, of course, you are going to be right occasionally. Common man, 90% of it is a total crap.
 
Cesko, "The Sovereighn Individual" is the way it should be, not the way it is, nor the way that it is going. The CIA is even spying on tax havens in order to find terrorist money. Government is not going away by a long shot, it is slowly seeping into everything. Secrecy and encryption won't save you if they can take you in the back room and make you talk. The world government will not be big on human rights and they won't tolerate dissidents. If you are a dissident there will be no place to run. That is the part that scares me the most.

VVV, if the U.S. loses its sovereighnty it won't matter if you are Rep. or Dem. , so don't get partisan. If anything the constant fighting of the parties is a divide and conquer tactic. there are globalists in both parties, including Clinton, that is why it can only be stopped by a grassroots movement which may never emerge until after the fact, and then it will be too late.
 
Un common man, 1941 - and Germany is the only game in town. We haven't even entered the war.

Stating that US will be the sole superpower as posted above, sure is bold, from a 1941 respective.

However; it's true that many "predictions" are out there, and few come to fruition.

And as we all know, even a broken clock is right twice a day.

Good Luck

Josh
 
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