One reason liberals are idiots when it comes to global warming

[gastropod]

Once again you quote a biased proclamation from an organization while failing to note that a significant majority of APS members protested and resigned, including Nobel-prize winners and APS Fellows, when the American Physical Society put forward this statement on global warming.

An Open Letter to the Council of the American Physical Society

As physicists who are familiar with the science issues, and as current and past members of the American Physical Society, we the undersigned urge the Council to revise its current statement* on climate change as follows, so as to more accurately represent the current state of the science:

Greenhouse gas emissions, such as carbon dioxide, methane, and nitrous oxide, accompany human industrial and agricultural activity. While substantial concern has been expressed that emissions may cause significant climate change, measured or reconstructed temperature records indicate that 20th and 21st century changes are neither exceptional nor persistent, and the historical and geological records show many periods warmer than today. In addition, there is an extensive scientific literature that examines beneficial effects of increased levels of carbon dioxide for both plants and animals.

Studies of a variety of natural processes, including ocean cycles and solar variability, indicate that they can account for variations in the Earth’s climate on the time scale of decades and centuries. Current climate models appear insufficiently reliable to properly account for natural and anthropogenic contributions to past climate change, much less project future climate.

The APS supports an objective scientific effort to understand the effects of all processes—natural and human—on the Earth’s climate and the biosphere’s response to climate change, and promotes technological options for meeting challenges of future climate changes, regardless of cause.

* The statement of the APS Council, adopted on November 18, 2007 is as follows:

Emissions of greenhouse gases from human activities are changing the atmosphere in ways that affect the Earth’s climate. Greenhouse gases include carbon dioxide as well as methane, nitrous oxide and other gases. They are emitted from fossil fuel combustion and a range of industrial and agricultural processes.

The evidence is incontrovertible: Global warming is occurring. If no mitigating actions are taken, significant disruptions in the Earth’s physical and ecological systems, social systems, security and human health are likely to occur. We must reduce emissions of greenhouse gases beginning now.

Because the complexity of the climate makes accurate prediction difficult, the APS urges an enhanced effort to understand the effects of human activity on the Earth’s climate, and to provide the technological options for meeting the climate challenge in the near and longer terms. The APS also urges governments, universities, national laboratories and its membership to support policies and actions that will reduce the emission of greenhouse gases.

— APS News; January 2008 (Volume 17, Number 1)

Signatories:

Harold M. Agnew
Director, Los Alamos National Laboratory (1970-1979)
President, General Atomics Corporation (1979-1984)
White House Science Councilor (1982-1989)
E.O. Lawrence Award 1966, Enrico Fermi Award 1978, Los Alamos Medal (with H.A. Bethe) 2001 Member National Academy of Sciences, National Academy of Engineering, Fellow APS, AAAS

Sol Aisenberg
President, International Technology Group
Formerly Staff Member, MIT; Lecturer, Harvard Medical School;
Visiting Research Professor, Boston University

Ralph B. Alexander
Former Associate Professor of Physics, Wayne State University
President, R.B. Alexander & Associates
Author, Global Warming False Alarm (Canterbury)

.... and many, many other signatures....

HOW DARE YOU POST FACTS HERE!!!!! hahahahaha

FC wouldn't know a fact if it bit him in the butt!

 

[bigarrow]

Here is the real chart from ARGO - the service that measures the temperatures in the oceans globally.

From the ARGO site:

http://www-argo.ucsd.edu/levitus_2009_figure.jpg

 

[futurecurrents]

Why don't you go to their previous and current membership rolls to validate your absurd statement.

Are the hundreds of scientists, including Nobel prize winners and over 30% of the APS Fellows, who supported the dissenting letter and resigned - just a group of "rightwing douchebags"? I will note that most are registered Democrats.

Exclusive: Nobel Prize-Winning Physicist Who Endorsed Obama Dissents! Resigns from American Physical Society Over Group’s Promotion of Man-Made Global Warming

Nobel Laureate Dr. Ivar Giaever: 'The temperature (of the Earth) has been amazingly stable, and both human health and happiness have definitely improved in this 'warming' period.'

Mores lies and deceptions from you. A few quit. What three? And the reason why the others signed the statement is because they don't understand English. They thought the APS was saying that AGW was incontrovertable . The APS was NOT saying that. It was saying GW was incontrovertable. Although it looks like some don't even think the recent warming is abnormal. Which is just fucking nuts. The vast vast majority of them still agree that....

"The evidence is incontrovertible: Global warming is occurring. If no mitigating actions are taken, significant disruptions in the Earth’s physical and ecological systems, social systems, security and human health are likely to occur. We must reduce emissions of greenhouse gases beginning now."

Again, a tiny minority disagrees. So what?

 

[futurecurrents]

As has been outlined many times the proper before, the proper and accepted way to graph ocean heat content is 10^24 joules, not in a scale of 10^22 (which is just a way of creating misguided alarm).

The temperature of the ocean has only changed 0.06 degrees since 1960. Why don't you provide a graph with the scale in degrees C of the change in ocean temperature since 1960? You know, the way ARGO provides the data.

Oh you are so full shit it's not even funny. Do yo even know how stupid you sound? The chart is scaled to show the data. That's how charts are scaled.

Fuck you you lying prick.

 

[futurecurrents]

Here is the real chart from ARGO - the service that measures the temperatures in the oceans globally.

And you say I am putting up deceptively scaled charts? Wow. You are one fucked-up dude.

Shoot yourself now. Do the world a favor you lying dickhead tool.

 

[gwb-trading]

And you say I am putting up deceptively scaled charts? Wow. You are one fucked-up dude.

Shoot yourself now. Do the world a favor you lying dickhead tool.

This chart is plotted on the ARGO site using their tools.

The chart serves to demonstrate how deceptively scaled your heat content chart is. Furthermore it drives home the point that many of the charts put forward by global warming alarmists are scaled to 'scare' everyone, and also drives home the point that it is easy to put forward charts using more standard axis unit selection to demonstrate there is no issue to be alarmed about. Global ocean temperatures increasing 0.06 degrees over a half century period is not a problem to be concerned about.

 

[futurecurrents]

This chart is plotted on the ARGO site using their tools.

The chart serves to demonstrate how deceptively scaled your heat content chart is. Furthermore it drives home the point that many of the charts put forward by global warming alarmists are scaled to 'scare' everyone, and also drives home the point that it is easy to put forward charts using more standard axis unit selection to demonstrate there is no issue to be alarmed about. Global ocean temperatures increasing 0.06 degrees over a half century period is not a problem to be concerned about.

No this episode of stupidity from you shows that you are a liar and a deceiver. You suck.

 

[gwb-trading]

This is the original chart from ARGO of ocean temperature using default axis units.

THIS is your chart on alarmism.

Alarmism is disease!

 

[futurecurrents]

By default, Microsoft Office Excel determines the minimum and maximum scale values of the vertical (value) axis, also known as the y axis, when you create a chart.

http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/e...rtical-value-axis-in-a-chart-HP010342255.aspx



In other words Excel would automatically scale the chart to use nearly the entire Y axis.

gwb, if you can't shoot yourself, run your car in an enclosed space for a while and just go to sleep. Permanently.

 

[gwb-trading]

Mores lies and deceptions from you. A few quit. What three? And the reason why the others signed the statement is because they don't understand English. They thought the APS was saying that AGW was incontrovertable . The APS was NOT saying that. It was saying GW was incontrovertable. Although it looks like some don't even think the recent warming is abnormal. Which is just fucking nuts. The vast vast majority of them still agree that....

FC - hundreds quit... you can read the list of names. You can see they are no longer in the membership rolls.

Are you trying to claim that an entire list of PhD scientists all teaching at U.S. universities do not understand English and that is why they signed the statement. Remember APS is the AMERICAN Physical Society.

Your assertions simply get wackier and wackier.... and more absurd.