On race relations in the United States

[Ricter]

Quote from Mav88:

Ricter, all arguments about groups/race are statistical in nature.

Individual stories are just that, anecdotes. I know a few too, but it's way too few. I care about what they accomplish as a group.

Being in science and engineering I see first hand the sad state of american blacks. It's so bad that 8 (yes only 8) blacks make the news for wanting to create 'tech' startups. I put in quotes because I don't think twitter type ripoffs are tech.

http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2011/technology/1107/gallery.newme_accelerator/?iid=HP_LN


Honestly, I wish it were not true because I am cheering for america. As I see it now though, blacks as a group will never contribute soon in other than music and sports. At a time when finances are imploding this is going to cause even more problems.

Which is why I can say, statistically speaking, the black engineer and his family will succeed in following generations. So, if he can do this, others can, too.

Did he get where he is thanks to affirmative action? If yes, then affirmative action can work. Or if it wasn't affirmative action, then was it simply his own efforts? If it was his own efforts, then the black man can succeed. Either way, these anti-diversity arguments are crap, and the statistics cannot help us envision a future.

 

[Ricter]

Quote from Mav88:

btw, i personal know a winner of 'black engineer of the year'.

Complete fraud professionally, nice guy, but incompetant as an engineer.

Good for you, I know shitty white engineers, too.

Edit: "shitty" is a strong word. Your word, incompetent, is better.

 

[Lucrum]

Quote from Mav88:

Ricter, all arguments about groups/race are statistical in nature.

Individual stories are just that, anecdotes. I know a few too, but it's way too few. I care about what they accomplish as a group.

Ditto

 

[FortuneTeller]

Quote from 377OHMS:

Most stupid white people from Seattle would last a couple of days in LA lol. They've all got the generic khaki dockers, plaid wool shirt, and all seem to drive gay looking Lexus crossovers like some kind of depraved soccer mom. The seattle grunge scene is the same people only they don't wash their clothes or themselves and have poor taste in music.

Name one truly great restaraunt in Seattle. Ok, the Metropolitan is good but name another and I don't mean Ivar's or Anthony's lol.

Between the not-so-clever-just-out-of-the-woods-almost-a-redneck-white-people trying to play dazzling urbanite and the complete lack of sunshine or anything we would recognize as a nice day makes it the worst place in North America outside of Newark. Even the skiing sucks, Cascade Crud we call it. No surfing either.

Its all yours. You don't have to worry about an influx of Californians anytime soon.

People from Seattle don't move to California. Unfortunately Californian's are moving here by the thousands to get away from the gangs and hot weather and over expensive everything and the economic crap there caused by the influx of illegals... LOL

Grunge scene? Wow are you out of the loop. That was in the 90's dude. How long has it been since you've been in Seattle? Twenty years?

Sorry to hear you got mixed up in the gay crowd... lol

If you can't find a place to ski in the PNW then you must of had a hard time finding a good restaurant too. Your tough luck.

Don't choke on the smog in LA! Have fun on the clooged up freeways!

And hope like shit some illegal don't blow you away just for the fun of it.

 

[377OHMS]

Quote from FortuneTeller:

People from Seattle don't move to California. Unfortunately Californian's are moving here by the thousands to get away from the gangs and hot weather and over expensive everything and the economic crap there caused by the influx of illegals... LOL

Grunge scene? Wow are you out of the loop. That was in the 90's dude. How long has it been since you've been in Seattle? Twenty years?

Sorry to hear you got mixed up in the gay crowd... lol

If you can't find a place to ski in the PNW then you must of had a hard time finding a good restaurant too. Your tough luck.

Don't choke on the smog in LA! Have fun on the clooged up freeways!

And hope like shit some illegal don't blow you away just for the fun of it.

Totally understand your irrational reaction, I too would be embarrassed to hail from Seattle. I think your friends hanging out under the viaduct are waiting for you scumbag.

Seattle, home of Stupid White People. You are probably from Spokane anyway LOL.

 

[Eight]

Quote from Trader7793:

Or you could look at and judge people as individuals.

I do that. I find that Black women for the most part range from very uncooperative to bullying with me [White looking male]. I find that AmeriBitches for the very most part treat me like I was a second class citizen and are demanding. I find that Black men are all democrats. I find that American Indians think that Jimmy Carter was the best president of all time... I find all sorts of things and I act on them... I find that Democrats support Black voters cradle to grave with public monies entrusted to them for the overall good... the list is long because I've been thinking for myself and gaining experience for a very long time... When the US has become really hostile to people that look White I'll likely go to Europe, they are starting to catch on that Multiculturalism is pure bullshit, maybe they will cut back on their own demise at some point...

 

[jem]

I love a good suburb... I loved growing up in Greenwich. Interesting people. Interesting activities. Great beach. Great country clubs. Very pretty girls.

I do not know what it is like now... But in the 80s it was awesome. I would go down to new york in the summertime and wonder how that hell people could survive in such sweaty crowded sometimes smelly place. Sure it had great for museums... but why live there when you could take a train.

 

[377OHMS]

Quote from jem:

I love a good suburb... I loved growing up in Greenwich. Interesting people. Interesting activities. Great beach. Great country clubs. Very pretty girls.

I do not know what it is like now... But in the 80s it was awesome. I would go down to new york in the summertime and wonder how that hell people could survive in such sweaty crowded sometimes smelly place. Sure it had great for museums... but why live there when you could take a train.

Heard Greenwich is really nice, even these days. Lots of hedgefunds there, you probably wouldn't have to go to the city at all except to see a show occasionally or those great museums. I actually like NYC too particularly when compared to Chicago which is a miserable place.

 

[Artful D0dger]

LOL! "so dark you could almost call him black" doesn't cut it. Race is not skin color. Race is a genetic distinction. Black is a reference to the race of people originating in sub saharan Africa. Nice try.

Quote from Ricter:

One of my best engineers, who therefore works in applications (proposed designs and sales), is so dark you could almost call him "black". He's making six figures, has a wife and three kids. You can be sure his wife is comfortable, and his kids will likely continue their upper middle class life, or better it, into their adulthood's. And, they'll pass that on to their kids in all likelihood. So, the ball is rolling for this black family, and there is no reason to believe their skin color will stop it rolling, unless haters and doubters try to derail it to prove their view.

 

[Lucrum]

Quote from Artful D0dger:

LOL! "so dark you could almost call him black" doesn't cut it. Race is not skin color. Race is a genetic distinction. Black is a reference to the race of people originating in sub saharan Africa. Nice try.

"black" is also a term used by those very same people.