On race relations in the United States

Quote from 377OHMS:

He is referring to your inclination to believe that a deliberate and hyper-rational writing style absolves you of any responsibility for the hateful views you deliver.

It doesn't.
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Not to mention that he knows damn well who Herrnstein and Murray are.

Edit: by the way, "ouch" re your comment on the hyper-rational style. That's often my style (you've hit me on it before, remember?). (Yes, I'm that way irl.)

I object to his emotionally detached, "I'm terribly sorry, I truly wish it were not so, but whites are by all objective measures superior to blacks. Regrettably, this cannot be changed. But, we must square our jaws and accept the facts as they are, and make policy accordingly." Etc.
 
I'm not familiar with Hernstein and Murray right off the top of my head. Perhaps I'd recognize them if I read about them somewhere.

In any case, that's absurd. I've NEVER, EVER advocated policy which presumes that blacks are "objectively inferior" to whites, and never would.

In reality, it's you who assumes that whites are objectively superior. If blacks and hispanics don't produce white outcomes, thrive by white standards, achieve by white measures of success, and display white academic abilities then it's you who then concludes that something is "wrong" and that these people need to be "fixed" so that they can then be more like you. You are obviously the one who advocates white supremacy, as you seek to refashion minorities into whites.

I, on the other hand, think people are fine the way they are. I don't think members of ethnic groups should be pressured to mimic whites, and conform to white standards. You are the real supremacist here.

Quote from Ricter:

Not to mention that he knows damn well who Herrnstein and Murray are.

Edit: by the way, "ouch" re your comment on the hyper-rational style. That's often my style (you've hit me on it before, remember?). (Yes, I'm that way irl.)

I object to his emotionally detached, "I'm terribly sorry, I truly wish it were not so, but whites are by all objective measures superior to blacks. Regrettably, this cannot be changed. But, we must square our jaws and accept the facts as they are, and make policy accordingly." Etc.
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Quote from Artful D0dger:

I'm not familiar with Hernstein and Murray right off the top of my head. Perhaps I'd recognize them if I read about them somewhere.

In any case, that's absurd. I've NEVER, EVER advocated policy which presumes that blacks are "objectively inferior" to whites, and never would.

In reality, it's you who assumes that whites are objectively superior. If blacks and hispanics don't produce white outcomes, thrive by white standards, achieve by white measures of success, and display white academic abilities then it's you who then concludes that something is "wrong" and that these people need to be "fixed" so that they can then be more like you. You are obviously the one who advocates white supremacy, as you seek to refashion minorities into whites.
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Bullshit. My views have nothing to do with the phony labels "black" and "white", and everything to do with haves and have nots. You blame diversity for conflict, and I blame inequality. My view has more explanatory power than yours, because I can draw on cross-cultural data and find more exceptions in your view than mine. That's how it works.
 
LOL! This post basically amounts to "I'm right and you're wrong, and my way is better than yours"... :p

You forgot one other difference. My views are based on facts, and historical data. Yours are based on imaginary fantasies. You're the supremacist, and I accept people for how they are. My view explains reality perfectly, the reality that you and your ilk are scared shitless of. I'd be lying if I said we don't take some pleasure in watching you guys shit your pants when presented with it. :D

Quote from Ricter:

Bullshit. My views have nothing to do with the phony labels "black" and "white", and everything to do with haves and have nots. You blame diversity for conflict, and I blame inequality. My view has more explanatory power than yours, because I can draw on cross-cultural data and find more exceptions in your view than mine. That's how it works.
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Quote from Artful D0dger:

LOL! This post basically amounts to "I'm right and you're wrong, and my way is better than yours"... :p

You forgot one other difference. My views are based on facts, and historical data. Yours are based on imaginary fantasies. You're the supremacist, and I accept people for how they are. My view explains reality perfectly, the reality that you and your ilk are scared shitless of. I'd be lying if I said we don't take some pleasure in watching you guys shit your pants when presented with it. :D
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*whoosh*, right over your head.
 
Quote from FortuneTeller:


Now your picking on the chicken farmers? Your such a meanie... :D
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I've got about 300 quail running around on my mountain. I've started feeding them lol. Guess that makes me a chicken farmer too in a sort of california fruit&nut sense. :D
 
Livestock milling around in people's yards is common in the 3rd world.

Quote from 377OHMS:

I've got about 300 quail running around on my mountain. I've started feeding them lol. Guess that makes me a chicken farmer too in a sort of california fruit&nut sense. :D
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Quote from Artful D0dger:

Livestock milling around in people's yards is common in the 3rd world.
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Gotta put you on Ignore. I can't abide a bigot.

Artful Bigot ON IGNORE.

Gabfly OFF IGNORE lol.

We'll see if he has reformed himself. :D
 
Quote from 377OHMS:

Gotta put you on Ignore. I can't abide a bigot.

Artful Bigot ON IGNORE.

Gabfly OFF IGNORE lol.

We'll see if he has reformed himself. :D
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Just out of curiosity, how many do you have on ignore?
 
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