On Obama Day, Americans on food stamps hit record high

Quote from PiggyBank:

Your idea of workfare is pretty much a description of slavery.

Here is a MUCH better idea. Kick out illegal immigrants and offer those on welfare their jobs as well as relocation. If they refuse to work, no more assistance. 3 birds, one stone.. with the added benefit of not turning the poor into slaves of the State.

Good luck with that. The perpetual welfare abusers lack work ethic. If you kick out all the hardworking immigrants, you'd be left with a whole bunch of do nothing, bitch and moan, freeloaders who have no desire to put in an honest day's work.
 
Quote from PiggyBank:

Your idea of workfare is pretty much a description of slavery.

Here is a MUCH better idea. Kick out illegal immigrants and offer those on welfare their jobs as well as relocation. If they refuse to work, no more assistance. 3 birds, one stone.. with the added benefit of not turning the poor into slaves of the State.

Not so much. I think people feel better about themselves if they are doing something. Sure, I'm ok with those who are disables getting everything they need from Society, especially the Military. But, able bodies need to work IMO. I think Tsing agreed too. What do you find wrong with this concept?

I realize that this is a second response, but the immigrant issue is something different IMO.
 
Quote from denner:

Good luck with that. The perpetual welfare abusers lack work ethic. If you kick out all the hardworking immigrants, you'd be left with a whole bunch of do nothing, bitch and moan, freeloaders who have no desire to put in an honest day's work.

Let 'em get hungry.
They'll work.
 
Quote from denner:

It is laughable. Ron, the same guy who turned down Maverick for dinner, because he knew that he would "lose it" and wind up back in county. Ron, the same guy who calls everyone else a racist, but can't even control his emotions over an informal dinner in Chicago without possibly turning violent.

Meanwhile, all his buddy libtards are busy patronizing the poor guy...he's just too blind to see it.
What's funny is that RCG has incited every verbal fight he has been in here on ET. I once offered to stop slamming him if he would do the same. His response was a four letter word tirade.
 
Quote from Brass:

Thank you for proving my point, Lucrum. Couldn't have done it without you.
Guess what I'll be doing in November, without you?
brASS hole.
 
Quote from mrbill:

Interesting idea, but I'm pretty sure that there are many on welfare that would not take some of the jobs being paid for by so many employers to the immigrants. We need to get past the hatred for the immigrants, and realize that there are many legal Americans who need to work as well. Not just swap jobs.

That they won't take the jobs is irrelevant, we are no longer funding their existence either way. And this is why you are a TROLL, who said anything about hating immigrants? I said illegal immigrants, not only do we NOT need them, they have no fucking right to be here, none.
 
Quote from denner:

Good luck with that. The perpetual welfare abusers lack work ethic. If you kick out all the hardworking immigrants, you'd be left with a whole bunch of do nothing, bitch and moan, freeloaders who have no desire to put in an honest day's work.

what luck bud? They either take an available job or they refuse and stop receiving assistance. That is totally humane. It would be perfect at the state level. Obviously it is just a pipe dream but it is better than little bills idea of slavery.
 
Quote from mrbill:

Not so much. I think people feel better about themselves if they are doing something. Sure, I'm ok with those who are disables getting everything they need from Society, especially the Military. But, able bodies need to work IMO. I think Tsing agreed too. What do you find wrong with this concept?

I realize that this is a second response, but the immigrant issue is something different IMO.

What I found wrong with your 'idea' is forcing poor people to work.. i thought that was obvious by calling it slavery-like. I also have no problem with society supporting the truly, permanently disabled but it should be done at the state level.. with the possible exception of the military as it is a federal organization. By disabled i mean physically or mentally incapable. None of these paid vacations for depression, tdi, etc. It is unreal what companies in certain states are forced to foot the bill for imo.. but that is another subject.
 
Quote from mrbill:

Good to hear, and thank you. The real Hope for America is to get thinking people together, not this partisan divide.

The real Hope for America is to get people together so they can fight it out.

To the victor goes the spoils.
 
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