No dude, they are just liberal. They can't help it. Just like you.
On Fox News...apparently Benghazi happened yesterday and IRS only targets Tea Party
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No dude, they are just liberal. They can't help it. Just like you.
I think you are full of shit. The Daily Show a real news show? Don't know MSNBC leans left? No fucking way. You're lying.
Once again futures currents is on the wrong side of reality, right wingers are more than willing to call the bullshit on their own people the vast majority of the time, where as liberals see themselves as far too intelligent to fall into the trap of bias thinking. The reason they consider themselves centrist is simply because they always believe they are taking the accurate position no matter what.
Liberals especially like to call themselves fiscal conservatives because they know it is absolutely assinine to be a fiscal liberal who wants to waste more money in the crooked sesspool we have already created, but then when you ask one of these fiscally conservative liberals if they support obamacare, welfare, footstamps, section 8 housing, they will tell you that all of that is neccessary, and the REAL spending cuts we need are on those tax cuts for the rich.
Somehow in their feeble minds liberals manage to convince their well balanced, centrist souls that allowing some hard working ass hole to keep more of the money he earned, is equivalent to cutting spending, after all that guys money should be used for the benefit of the highly evolved "centrist" beaurecrats, who are clearly just well balanced moderates, looking out for the good of everyone.....
There is no one who is more full of shit than a liberal who talks about someone elses ability to spot bias.
Liberals especially like to call themselves fiscal conservatives because they know it is absolutely assinine to be a fiscal liberal who wants to waste more money in the crooked sesspool we have already created, but then when you ask one of these fiscally conservative liberals if they support obamacare, welfare, footstamps, section 8 housing, they will tell you that all of that is neccessary, and the REAL spending cuts we need are on those tax cuts for the rich.
Somehow in their feeble minds liberals manage to convince their well balanced, centrist souls that allowing some hard working ass hole to keep more of the money he earned, is equivalent to cutting spending, after all that guys money should be used for the benefit of the highly evolved "centrist" beaurecrats, who are clearly just well balanced moderates, looking out for the good of everyone.....
There is no one who is more full of shit than a liberal who talks about someone elses ability to spot bias.
Yeah Max, the irony is the Republicans biggest problem right now is they are TOO critical of each other. The infighting in the party is pretty bad and has been since 2008 I think when McCain got the nomination.
See, the only time the left fights with each other is over the sex scandals like John Edwards and Anthony Weiner, you will rarely see them ever criticize one of their own on policy. On the flip side, you have guys like Christie on the right who gets called out almost daily by other factions on the right. Currently we have the Rand Paul vs Christie debate. You have the tea partiers against the old school republicans. You have the social conservatives constantly fighting with the fiscal conservatives. You have McCain openly saying he might vote for Hilary in 2016. Then you have the Ron Paul faction of the party that almost never agreed with mainstream republicans. Then you have the fight between the Bush's vs the tea party. And all these factions are divided over Policy! They criticize their own and do it publicly as well as privately. You will NEVER see that on the left.
The left marches lock step to the same beat. It's one of the reasons if you stop a liberal on a street and ask him/her 10 questions on ideology from abortion to military to taxes to the environment, you will almost always get the same 10 answers. They make good foot soldiers. On the right if you stop 10 republicans I guarantee you will not get the same 10 answers. You may even get 10 completely different answers! The left simply does not have the ability to think for themselves because they are so co-dependent on the government. On the plus side, they will win more elections being brain dead because their party will go along with whatever they are told. Notice how fast Hilary fell in line after she lost in 2008 and went to work for that man she thought should not be allowed anywhere near the white house. Where as McCain and Bush never spoke again to each other nor would they EVER work together simply for political expediency.
You are mistaking a fractious mess of disparate interests for objectivity and self-critique.
I don't how I am wrong by pointing out that Faux News is propaganda for the right. It is. The sad thing is that some sheep think it is fair and balanced. It's not at all. The problem is that most righties are too dumb to know it and they think having on a lefty once in while makes it so. They also don't notice all the subtle ways FN tilts the message. For example, making Obama sound far off and thin with audio tricks, or using unflattering photos. Sometimes it's tone of voice of the announcer. None of this gets noticed by the dullard righties.
I don't how I am wrong by pointing out that Faux News is propaganda for the right. It is. The sad thing is that some sheep think it is fair and balanced. It's not at all. The problem is that most righties are too dumb to know it and they think having on a lefty once in while makes it so. They also don't notice all the subtle ways FN tilts the message. For example, making Obama sound far off and thin with audio tricks, or using unflattering photos. Sometimes it's tone of voice of the announcer. None of this gets noticed by the dullard righties.
Even when it comes to sex scandals the message is loud and clear from the party who invented the "war on women." So long as you support more and more government intervention in your life, liberals will support you.
Apparently in their eyes, it is a war onwomen to not provide free birth control, but 3 sexual predators like Spitzer, Weiner, and Filner are good to go, and a people like JFK and Clinton, who would be considered sexual predators by any normal persons standards are viewed in high regard.
One of their most popular presidents is famous for abusing his position of power to take down a <s>woman</s> heffer who was half his age, the other one used his position of power to obtain drugs in order to feed them to a minor so that she would allow him and his brothers to perform a gang bang on her......
Keep mind.... THESE ARE THE HEROS of the unbiased Left, not the villains.
You are dodging dude. Answer my question. How is it that I can stop 10 normal people on the street, not elected officials, but normal folks who are liberal and they all have the same positions. Yet stop 10 republicans on the street and you likely will get several if not all having different positions. It's because they think for themselves. They would have to! Otherwise they would all agree. The reason one guy on the right is anti-war is because he had to go out on his own and think about the issue independently of what is being fed to him by the status quo. So back to Fox News. Even their own viewers all over the map on issues. Well, if Fox is so biased and telling them how to think, why don't they agree then like all the MSNBC viewers who all walk lock step with Maddow and Mathews and Sharpton.
Turn on any show on Fox on any given day when they have guests and you will almost always see an equal amount of liberals defending their point of view for the Fox viewers to see. That rarely happens on MSNBC, I know, I use to watch it daily believe it or not. To CNN's credit, they do make a concerted effort to bring on different points of view. It's not as balanced as Fox in terms of guests but it's reasonable. Your argument is weak dude.
IT'S NOT JUST FOX
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FROM THE LOS ANGELES TIMES:
One of the most disappointing attributes of the Obama administration has been its proclivity for secrecy. The president who committed himself to "an unprecedented level of openness in government" has followed the example of his predecessor by invoking the "state secrets" privilege to derail litigation about government misdeeds in the war on terror. He has refused to release the administration's secret interpretation of the Patriot Act, which two senators have described as alarming. He has blocked the dissemination of photographs documenting the abuse of prisoners by U.S. service members. And now his Justice Department has proposed to allow government agencies to lie about the existence of documents being sought under the Freedom of Information Act, or FOIA.
http://articles.latimes.com/2011/oct/31/opinion/la-ed-secrets-20111031
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FROM REUTERS:
Exclusive: IRS manual detailed DEA's use of hidden intel evidence
By John Shiffman and David Ingram
WASHINGTON | Wed Aug 7, 2013 11:29pm BST
(Reuters) - Details of a U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration program that feeds tips to federal agents and then instructs them to alter the investigative trail were published in a manual used by agents of the Internal Revenue Service for two years.
Defense attorneys and some former judges and prosecutors say that systematically hiding potential evidence from defendants violates the U.S. Constitution. According to documents and interviews, agents use a procedure they call "parallel construction" to recreate the investigative trail, stating in affidavits or in court, for example, that an investigation began with a traffic infraction rather than an SOD tip.
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2013/08/07/uk-dea-irs-idUKBRE9761B620130807
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/exclusive-irs-manual-detailed-deas-hidden-intel-evidence-005747393.html
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FROM FORBES and CPA JOURNAL "Accounting Today"
The Internal Revenue Service is facing a class action lawsuit alleging that more than 60 million personal medical records were improperly seized by agents from the embattled agency.
According to a story by Courthousenews.com, an unnamed healthcare provider in California is suing the IRS and 15 unnamed agents, alleging that they improperly seized some 60 million medical records of 10 million Americans, including medical records of all California state judges on March 11, 2011.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/scottgo...rs-raids-60-million-personal-medical-records/
http://www.accountingtoday.com/news/Congress-Probes-IRS-Seizure-Medical-Records-67081-1.html
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FROM THE LOS ANGELES TIMES:
One of the most disappointing attributes of the Obama administration has been its proclivity for secrecy. The president who committed himself to "an unprecedented level of openness in government" has followed the example of his predecessor by invoking the "state secrets" privilege to derail litigation about government misdeeds in the war on terror. He has refused to release the administration's secret interpretation of the Patriot Act, which two senators have described as alarming. He has blocked the dissemination of photographs documenting the abuse of prisoners by U.S. service members. And now his Justice Department has proposed to allow government agencies to lie about the existence of documents being sought under the Freedom of Information Act, or FOIA.
http://articles.latimes.com/2011/oct/31/opinion/la-ed-secrets-20111031
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FROM REUTERS:
Exclusive: IRS manual detailed DEA's use of hidden intel evidence
By John Shiffman and David Ingram
WASHINGTON | Wed Aug 7, 2013 11:29pm BST
(Reuters) - Details of a U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration program that feeds tips to federal agents and then instructs them to alter the investigative trail were published in a manual used by agents of the Internal Revenue Service for two years.
Defense attorneys and some former judges and prosecutors say that systematically hiding potential evidence from defendants violates the U.S. Constitution. According to documents and interviews, agents use a procedure they call "parallel construction" to recreate the investigative trail, stating in affidavits or in court, for example, that an investigation began with a traffic infraction rather than an SOD tip.
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2013/08/07/uk-dea-irs-idUKBRE9761B620130807
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/exclusive-irs-manual-detailed-deas-hidden-intel-evidence-005747393.html
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FROM FORBES and CPA JOURNAL "Accounting Today"
The Internal Revenue Service is facing a class action lawsuit alleging that more than 60 million personal medical records were improperly seized by agents from the embattled agency.
According to a story by Courthousenews.com, an unnamed healthcare provider in California is suing the IRS and 15 unnamed agents, alleging that they improperly seized some 60 million medical records of 10 million Americans, including medical records of all California state judges on March 11, 2011.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/scottgo...rs-raids-60-million-personal-medical-records/
http://www.accountingtoday.com/news/Congress-Probes-IRS-Seizure-Medical-Records-67081-1.html