Omicron: Natural immunity idea ‘not really panning out'
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Yep... no natural immunity against Omicron.
Two-thirds with Omicron say they have had Covid before
https://www.bbc.com/news/health-60132096
Two-thirds with Omicron say they have had Covid before
https://www.bbc.com/news/health-60132096
And how many were vaccinated?
MABs don't work with Omicron, natural immunity doesn't....but somehow the vaccines do?
And how many were vaccinated?
MABs don't work with Omicron, natural immunity doesn't....but somehow the vaccines do?
Vaccine breakthrough rates have soared with Omicron. The vaccines are only 30% effective as stopping infections. To provide some context -- this means that if you had 30 fully vaccinated people in a closed room with poor ventilation for a period of hours with no masks -- and one of them has Omicron then it is likely that 20 out of the 30 will be infected. When the effectiveness of a vaccine is below 50% for stopping infection then it is generally considered nearly useless for stopping transmission across a community (as we are seeing). Fortunately the vaccines are still over 80% effective with Omicron for stopping severe illness.
Keep in mind as a comparison that studies show that having a previous variant of Covid provides nearly no protection against Omicron. This means if you put the 30 unvaccinated people in the same poorly ventilated room for hours with no masks then all 30 would be infected.
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This summary in the New England Journal of Medicine outlines the effectiveness of various antibody treatments against Omicron and previous variants-- including several under development. The summary includes a full table. Note that a value of >50,000 or >10,000 means the treatment is useless. Note these tests were performed in a laboratory setting.
Efficacy of Antibodies and Antiviral Drugs against Covid-19 Omicron Variant
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2119407
Efficacy of Antibodies and Antiviral Drugs against Covid-19 Omicron Variant
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2119407
Everybody (vaccinated or those that recovered from a prior Covid infection) can get infected with Omicron and eventually the immunity for them will wane overtime...
The key difference is that those "not vaccinated" are primarily the ones being Hospitalized, ICU Admission, or Death. These are the idiots clogging up the healthcare system that results in poor healthcare for all including those hospitalized for illnesses and injuries not related to Covid (e.g. stroke, heart attack, injuries from a car accident et cetera).
Just as bad, those not vaccinated are extending the Pandemic that results in governments trying the manage it with mandates and the ones that are truly fuckheads are the ones asking why hasn't the Pandemic ended while they're not vaccinated.
The above is not the scary aspect. We need to worry about a new Variant of Concern showing up that's more pathogenic than Delta and can infect easier than Omicron while this Pandemic is being extended by the fuckheads.
If the above happens...the entire world is fucked big time that will make the 50 million deaths in the 1918 Influenza Pandemic look...small.
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I only posted the most recent charts...instead of posting charts for every single month that I've accumulated for each state in the Northeast, South Dakota, Illinois, Kentucky, and Québec Canada including Pediatric Hospitalization Data.
Simply, a lot more than "six week sample". Yet, most here at the forum aren't too interested in all the charts I've been posting since the beginning of the Pandemic nor interested in any associated statistical data.
Yet, if you're interested in the past data beyond 6 weeks...
https://dfr.vermont.gov/about-us/covid-19/modeling
Regardless, I'm sure you've noticed that many anti-vaxxers have already drawn their conclusions from "case counts" while ignoring the Hospitalization, ICU Admission, and Deaths since vaccinations began.
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In super-vaxxed Vermont, Covid strikes — but packs far less punch
Vermont’s collective measures do appear to be protecting residents from the worst of the contagion’s damage
https://www.salon.com/2022/02/01/in-super-vaxxed-vermont-strikes--but-packs-far-less-punch_partner/