Omicron: Natural immunity idea ‘not really panning out'
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There is no such thing as re-infection. There is only infection from new or different strains. This is pretty simple stuff. Please stop trying to obfuscate.
That guy doesn't care about that even though there have been two types of reinfection classification: Different variants (discussed in the article) and the same variant in which the reinfection attacked two different areas of the immune system.
Regardless, both were rare in 2020 and most of 2021 until the U.S. begin to do more/better genomic sequencing of Covid to catch up with the rest of the research being done in other countries.
In addition, after the Biden Administration enter office...they had hospitals document possible reinfections that had not been monitored nor documented in the prior administration...getting too involved in the CDC.
I posted a copy of the documentation forms that hospitals are now required to send to the CDC in another Covid thread last year. Basically, it alerts the CDC to do follow up with the patient's physicians along with the CDC doing genomic sequencing of the patient's Covid virus infections.
Simply, reinfections have been increasing (although rare) but there still is very little data about reinfections. In addition, most of the data about reinfections obviously involve severe Covid illnesses from patients that have been Hospitalized, ICU admission, or Death.
- You'll notice in the article you posted it mentions the "at least 90 days after primary infection".
Regardless, they discovered the mean-time of reinfections (discussed in other reinfection articles that are peer reviewed) had occurred at a duration of 89.1 days. Essentially they now have established to ignore any "reinfection data" less than 90 days due to patients still viral shedding in the asymptomatic phase that can lead to reactivation and to ignore any suspected reinfections that have not been virologically confirmed, without genomic viral analysis and host genetic analysis.
Although reinfections are very rare... the same variant reinfection has been virologically confirmed and for correlation with epidemiological identification...confirming the same Variant of Concern hasn't mutated. All reinfection via the same Variant of Concern has occurred after genomic viral analysis and host genetic analysis in immune-compromised patients...so far.
In contrast, reinfections via different Variants of Concern have been confirmed in patients that had not been immune-compromised...so far.
The below reinfection chart reference a study of convalescent patients from another published article.
In short, the longer the Pandemic endures...reinfections will continue to occur in increasing numbers.
Yet, in North America, many patients had a positive total immunoglobulin or IgG result at the time of reinfection, very little examination of their immune response was performed until the Biden administration took office.
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I stated in my prior message post a statement that could be misleading because I didn't go into any molecular explanation about how reinfections occur within the same Variant of Concern.
In genomic language...it's not a mutation but it's instead a different lineage of the same Variant of Concern.
I explain the different lineages and their role in reinfections @ https://www.elitetrader.com/et/thre...-states-and-canada.363251/page-6#post-5522195
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Letter from NIH shows coronavirus research is not genetically related to the current COVID-19 pandemic, fact-checkers report
Fact-checkers from FactCheck.org and The Washington Post say that a letter from the National Institutes of Health regarding research on coronaviruses has been taken out of context. According to the fact-checkers, the letter says that research by EcoHealth Alliance is not linked to the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic and the bat coronaviruses under examination in the research organisation’s experiments are not closely genetically related to the current pandemic’s novel coronavirus. The NIH also confirmed that EcoHealth Alliance experiments conducted in Wuhan Institute of Virology in China have no link to the COVID-19 pandemic and did not produce SARS-CoV-2, according to FactCheck.org.
Fact-checkers from FactCheck.org and The Washington Post say that a letter from the National Institutes of Health regarding research on coronaviruses has been taken out of context. According to the fact-checkers, the letter says that research by EcoHealth Alliance is not linked to the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic and the bat coronaviruses under examination in the research organisation’s experiments are not closely genetically related to the current pandemic’s novel coronavirus. The NIH also confirmed that EcoHealth Alliance experiments conducted in Wuhan Institute of Virology in China have no link to the COVID-19 pandemic and did not produce SARS-CoV-2, according to FactCheck.org.
Once again you are posting fake information from a totally disreputable website -- in this case http://www.womensystems.com/ which is completely overrun with anti-vax Covid-denier nonsense in every article. Of course, the current rendition only appears to have been put in place in January, 2022 as a platform to shovel nonsense. You would think a website with that name would have at least one article on women's health issues that doesn't involve Covid.
But of course the website is actually registered to a troll farm owner in Maharashtra, India who has used the domain for various purposes over time since 2017. Currently it is part of a troll network pushing fake Covid information - while trying to run ads.
I will note the nonsense you posted about vaccinated deaths in the U.K. has been debunked multiple times -- yet you persist with posting this crap.
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He's not the sharpest tool in the shed. I suspect its the reason why he post the way he does.
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*Individuals whose NHS numbers were unavailable to link to the NIMS.
**number of deaths of people who had had a positive test result for COVID-19 and either died within 60 days of the first positive test or have COVID-19 mentioned on their death certificate.
In the context of very high vaccine coverage in the population, even with a highly effective vaccine, it is expected that a large proportion of cases, hospitalizations, and deaths would occur in vaccinated individuals, simply because a larger proportion of the population are vaccinated than unvaccinated and no vaccine is 100% effective.
This is especially true because vaccination has been prioritized in individuals who are more susceptible or more at risk of severe disease. Individuals in risk groups may also be more at risk of hospitalization or death due to non-COVID-19 causes, and thus may be hospitalized or die with COVID-19 rather than because of COVID-19.
wrbtrader
What specifically is wrong?
Did you contact the website and demand a retraction of the info that you can prove wrong?
Sic 'em boy!