Omicron: Natural immunity idea ‘not really panning out'
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That's the problem of the Covid spread that the CDC and state public health agencies is trying to get people to understand...
By the time that you feel like you're "getting sick"...you've already spread Covid to others in your household, loved ones, friends, and anyone else you've been in contact with especially if you were not wearing a face mask while you were highly contagious prior to you "feeling sick".
Actually, this is the theme of how a Pandemic develops and continues...we have this reactive behavior to disease symptoms instead of having a proactive behavior to prevent infection/disease.
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Ok, let's go back in time back to January of 2020. Covid just hit the country and you just got infected. Or better yet, let's say you've known about Covid for a couple of months and it's now March of 2020 and you just got Covid along with half the friggin' country. What proactive behavior are you referring to in the quote above that could have been done AT THAT TIME to prevent the pandemic from developing?
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If ya coulda waited till April 6... They're At The Post!
https://www.elitetrader.com/et/thre...he-replication-of-sars-cov-2-in-vitro.342819/
Yeah... but the reality is that extensive mainstream studies have proven conclusively that Ivermectin is useless for preventing or treating Covid. Here is a thread to remind you of the reality.
https://www.elitetrader.com/et/threads/for-the-dumb-ivermectin-cultists.360722/
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You are aware that not every Covid positive test is via PCR ?
Also, most hospitals that receive a patient that tested positive for Covid by a PCR...after the patient is admitted to the hospital...typically blood draw is done to help confirm the initial positive Covid test (let us say a home Nose Swab - PCR or Antigen)
- Yet, I was under the impression that most regions have been using rapid antigen (not antibody) tests for several months although I could be wrong.
Patients that are admitted for severe Covid illness especially those with health insurance...the insurance companies typically require an Antibody test (Serological test) after the patient has recovered especially when there is an insurance claim.
Testing of admitted patients is critical because any prior testing diagnosis can be correlated with any severe Covid illness (e.g. pneumonia, certain types of blood clots et cetera).
Yet, I do understand why there's a need for PCR test to minimize the possible spread of Covid because there's a large percentage of the population that do not have access to medical care and there's another large percentage of the population that stay at home until a severe Covid illness develops (e.g. not able to breadth).
- My point, there's too much dependence on case counts when we should only be looking at Hospitalization, ICU Admission, and even Deaths (autopsy) to confirm Covid numbers instead of a Drive-Thru Testing Site.
It's not perfect but it does help to minimize someone that's truly positive for Covid from the possibility of spreading Covid to someone else...plus the tests are convenient and it alerts a community of an outbreak...
The Covid infection, later can be confirmed with increases in Hospitalization, ICU Admission, and even Deaths...a sad way for confirmation of severe Covid illness and spread.
The latter gives states and provinces heads up about what areas actually needs additional assistance in providing medical care during a Pandemic.
wrbtrader
I liked your comment re case counts versus hospitalizations. I also hope those reporting are using a generally agreed on common definition of hospitalization for Covid-19. I heard a comment on television the other day to the effect that something like 65% of "hospitalizations" in New York being reported as covid hospitalizations were for other reasons, but the patients tested positive while at the hospital. I tend to let these media reports go in one ear and out the other. I assume the hospitals know what they are doing and are using well defined, uniform reporting. Let's hope so.
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I am guessing he means staying home under the covers for a few days eating Grandma's chicken soup until the fever breaks.
I can't look at your 1st Covid infection for an individual via "proactive behavior" due to the fact we were in a dismissive environment about Covid (its science) by the then Trump Administration with many U.S. states public health agencies following their lead.
Also, proactive behaviors only minimize the risk of exposure to diseases and minimize the risk of spreading disease.
- Yet, your 2nd infection and 3rd infection (reinfections)...that's a completely different story considering by that time the alarms were sounding off if they have not already done such for you.
Proactive Behaviors: Proper face mask wearing indoors, social distancing, carrying small bottle of hand sanitizer to have when around others outside of your bubble, avoiding crowded places indoors/outdoors, avoiding non-essential travel because it is a common way for Covid to spread, and avoiding others that don't believe in the same.
In addition, add immune-boosting supplements to your diet especially if you already know of a deficiency, healthy nutrition, regular cardio workouts especially if you do not want to get vaccinated.
- Yet, for those that think any of the above is problematic for them...get vaccinated to minimize the risk of a severe Covid illness. Getting vaccinated if you have children is a way to help protect your children at home even if you don't want your children to be vaccinated.
Just as important, I have my great grandfather's military diary from the 1918 - 1920 Influenza Pandemic that gives me a wealth of info about Pandemics, politics, and military involvement in the spread of the disease.
Further, I believe in taking the fight to Covid and not sitting back...not waiting to react.
With that said, I truly believe our immune system is an incredible fighting machine. Yet, Covid is a different monster with many trojan horses sort'uv speak just waiting to be unleash by Covid on our immune system even if we only had a mild illness.
Thus, I view Covid reinfections (multiple infections) as its way of probing our immune system before a deadly assault.
By the way, I occasionally wore a face mask long before Covid because it was something I learned when I've lived in Asian countries (e.g. South Korea) that make face masks wearing a fashion statement along with the fact that it's their way of dealing with pollution problems and it was their way of being respectful to others around them when they were sick or felt like they were "feeling sick"...
Face mask wearing has been a normal way of life for many decades in countries like China, Japan, and South Korea especially when the people learned there was an airborne virus in the air that they breathe...causing a disease.
P.S. Ironically, with all the training and tools that I had...it was pneumonia that almost killed me in the fall of 2016 when I vacationed in an environment that had an outbreak that I was not aware of a disease problem.
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