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And notice the above pic, all oil ran to the bottom, towards needle. Here, I have simply turned the syringe upright, allowing the oil to all run to the rubber on the plunger, then pushed it up to where it's now "loaded," and ready to inject. Any air bubbles are knocked out at this point, and I literally grab a syringe, inject, aspirate, then push. And by push, I don't mean this will flow like Bacteriostatic water, lol. It goes SLOWLY, and takes constant pressure on the plunger.
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Final product. 1/4ml Depo Testosterone (200mg/ml Testosterone Cypionate in this case), ready to inject.
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And in MARKED bag for those of us who are into other oils, lol.
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Confusing these a week out from the Saturday stage= big drama, and just no good. lol
 
And there we go. I consider the above to be a hell of a good dose for those on a low tank. 50mg injected 2x/week, is a good one. Can get a guy into the high normals, and just what a lifesaver to someone low on a VERY IMPORTANT hormone, that is dismissed off as bad, or whatever people think.. Hope that helped, as am pretty sure I downed 3 glasses ice water doing the above. LOL!
 
And those going on TRT, I will point out, I do eat extremely clean, as the older I get, and the higher my doses of testosterone, or other androgens, means lipid worries. This is the worst thing I'll eat this week:
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The OP knows the above, but hope the rest of you find it helpful. Also, if any of you get your doc to write the 100mg/ml test cypionate or enanthate, it will flow very well through the 29g. If 200mg/ml, oh yes, you'll be pushing..
 
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Yep, thought that may have been the case. And ask your GP to write you a 10ml vial Depo Testosterone (is testosterone cypionate, some use enanthate, or could even be a blend), with 1 refill. I'd actually recommend what I personally do, but isn't necessarily for someone new to this. I use 29 gauge 1/2" insulin syringes, and backload them with 1/4ml-50mg, and inject in delts, triceps, or quads every other day. I highly recommend you learn about intramuscular injections, and realize this miracle is suspended in an oil as a carrier. (Means isn't the "shot" you see all the time, as being oily, takes time to inject it. And I do aspirated, as after 20yrs, have been filled a syringe with blood a handful of time.)

I'll say, 7 days after your first injection, you'll be noticing it. And after being on it for a month, you'll want to buy us a Ferrari lol, for mentioning this. Smart thing, would be your doc injecting you with testosterone propionate, and of course, the cypionate, or enanthate. All the prop does is "hit you" much faster- 2 days, and will "hang around" just long enough for the depo test to start working.

And shit, I just re-read your last sentence. Sounds like you've at least read some bodybuilding boards by saying "AI," where we've been forced to be "our own Physicians"* since the 1991 laws dumb ass Bush 1 screwed us with, literally handcuffing doctors, and yeah, no more good studies, meaning getting information from Europe, or elsewhere.. Sad! Please note, you WILL crush your libido even worse if you get too much aromatise inhibitor dose. Especially femara 2.5mg!:eek: I actuall don't use an AI on trt, but yes, when doing whats now called a "blast," ie., cycle.

So many sides an AI can cause by crushing estrogen, is a fine line you'll need to walk. Sure, puffy, itchy nips, big water retention, and you'd be a candidate, BUT do not use too much, or yes, you'll be back to not being able to "get things going," even on testosterone. Try without, and if you're sensitive to aromatization, or the dose is too much, Aramasin is what I'd recommend, as Arimidex WILL drop your HDL!:eek: There's MUCH to this, and is probably far over your GP's head. I really recommend you look up a doc who does HRT, life extension, etc.,

I could type three pages on this, and the above is a small %, but a hell of a start. Guarantee a month into your levels going to the upper range, you'll be loving life, and it's far beyond just the sexual benefits... Best wishes!
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Thanks for writing all that, Leap.

I'm a younger man (37), and the prospect of lifelong TRT intimidates me. A recent study was published that correlated heart attack risk to TRT. My Dads side has a big history of heart disease. To my knowledge, the study didn't distinguish between men who received supra-physiological doses of testosterone, and men who recieved T doses that kept them in normal, age-related ranges. I think that's important. And then there's the testicular atrophy, and semen decline.

On the flipside, I am going on 9 years now with no drive, zest, lethargy, brain fog, low libido, unrefreshing sleep etc. This all was tightly correlated to the propecia use. The herbal route I've tried going on 5 years now, hasn't worked. And then there's the associated health and lifestyle risks of having low testosterone. My thinking is I may as well try prohormones > steroids, and see how it works. Just try it and see.

My plan is finish off the herbal stuff in the next few months. Come the new year aromasin for several weeks (to find my sweet spot) > then trial dhea topical for a couple months (to see if it works, perhaps paired with aromasin) > then testosterone depot trialed for a couple months (again, with aromasin, if necessary).

I really need to get my libido back because life is literally passing me by. I've got all kinds of opportunity with girls, but theres just no spark, or desire, and it sucks because I really miss it.

Baron recommended Aromasin and I trialed it for six weeks, some time ago. I got impatient and crushed my E2 levels with Aromasin @25 mg, every day. Stupid. But then found my sweet spot = 6.25 mg every third day or every fourth day. I know where I am with that, so that's important.

Something odd about this all: I had two blood panels done. One was on a Tongkat Ali supplement and my T came in around 75th percentile. Except, I didn't *feel* any different. Maybe 10% hornier. The second blood panel was done on no supplements (clean), and T came back in the bottom 15th percentile. I've ran all kinds of libido boosters (tongkat ali, tribulus, maca, stinging nettle), with no change in mood or wood. One theory floating around the propecia boards is that it caused androgen insensitivity. And perhaps that's what I have.
 
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There are some new studies regarding correlation of TRT and heart attacks. The link may not be as valid as previously thought for those who are in need of medically indicated therapeutic doses. Of course, I shouldn't have to mention that risks are dependent on appropriate therapeutic levels.

Ouch! I always avoid 22g needles for IM injections.
Sterile technique is not typically used for IM injections. Aseptic or clean technique is performed.

Great thread! I plan to learn a lot from it.
 
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"EMA Finds Little Evidence That Testosterone Ups CV Risk
Lisa Nainggolan
There is no consistent evidence that the use of testosterone in men with hypogonadism increases the risk for cardiovascular problems, according to a new review by the Pharmacovigilance Risk Assessment Committee (PRAC) of the European Medicines Agency (EMA).

The EMA launched this review regarding the cardiovascular risk for testosterone-containing medicines in April, following a similar announcement by the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) earlier in the year.

Now the PRAC says the evidence concerning the risks of serious cardiovascular side effects with these medicines "is inconsistent." While some studies do suggest an increased risk for cardiac problems in men using testosterone compared with men not taking it, these had some limitations, and other studies did not confirm this risk.

The committee has determined that the benefits of testosterone continue to outweigh its risks but stresses that testosterone-containing medicines should be used only where lack of testosterone has been confirmed by signs and symptoms as well as laboratory tests.

The EU product information for all testosterone-containing medicines should therefore be updated to reflect this, and warnings against use of testosterone in men suffering from severe heart, liver, or kidney problems should also be included on all such products, says the PRAC.

And the limited data on safety and effectiveness in patients over 65 years of age need to be recognized, as does the fact that testosterone levels decrease with age and that age-specific testosterone reference values do not exist — this will also need to be highlighted in the product information, the PRAC states.

"The safety of testosterone medicines should continue to be monitored," the PRAC adds. "In particular, a number of studies are still ongoing, and their results will be considered in future regular benefit/risk assessments for these medicines."

The PRAC recommendation will now be forwarded to the Coordination Group for Mutual Recognition and Decentralised Procedures — Human (CMDh), which will adopt a final position.

In the United States, an FDA advisory panel voted nearly unanimously last month to change the labeling for testosterone-replacement products, with the aim of tamping down on the current widespread use there of such agents for "age-related" hypogonadism."
 
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