Okay I'm going take start programming for strategy trading

I mean there probably good for big floor trading but for the little electronic retail guy we probably get eaten up in there volume.

Yes I am one of these little retail guys

Anyway I contacted RJ and yeh there fairly pushy sales people always wanting contact details and I looked at there MCD platform which isnt really very flash.

As far as I know, RJO MCD for pit contracts was not automatisable the last time I asked.

And there commissions are a little cheaper than farr but are still up there $35 round trip 2 dow mini including fees.
So you use TS for futures?

Mini Dow round trip = 4.2 $ with TS

It says on there form they dont use TS for futures they use RJ's MCD?
Can you confirm im sick of getting screwed by these guys.

rjo mcd is for floor trading ( not automated ). Any other electronic contract is with TS.I don't understand.
 
Quote from angryangry:

It says on there form they dont use TS for futures they use RJ's MCD?
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Sorry, I didn't see your initial question.

MCD is for pit trading( if you're still trading at the pit , consider moving to electronic contracts, easier , lower costs... )

TS is for electronic futures contracts, stocks, options and perhaps forex now ( ? ). You can automate what you want as soon as it is not high frequency.
 
Im not sold on any hype im just trying to find the best broker which IMO is NOT Interactive Brokers.
Yet it seems no one here can recommend without perhaps some vested interest a decent direct access broker.

Tradator on the TS page it states,

Trades not placed through the trade station platform,

Electronically traded futures options
Pit traded us futures and futures options
Electronically traded futures
International futures
All placed through RJO's MCD platform.

Is the ecbot dow emini NOT an electronically traded future?:confused:
 
I think we made a synchro-post...

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Electronically traded futures options"

i'm not sure but you've to create an equities account to trade options

Pit traded us futures and futures options

RJO MCD

Electronically traded futures

TS

International futures

Not available yet. Soon. The feed is available for eurex futures

All placed through RJO's MCD platform.

not at all. The main auto platform is TS for most contracts you want to trade

Is the ecbot dow emini NOT an electronically traded future?

of course, FREE feed for YM on TS

:confused:
 
Quote from JimmyJam:

Try these people.

If you can code, you're in luck.

If you can't, you can use their end-user tools, but, by definition, if you have something that most other traders don't have, you're going to have to code it yourself, because the tools to do so won't have been created.

http://www.ninjatrader.com/web/index.htm

G'd luck,

JJ

P.S. Myself? I really don't mind turning on the ol computer and ringing up a trade or three, it definitely beats working for a living.
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http://www.ampfutures.com/ninja_trader.html#autotrading

They give it to you for $50 a month how much is it to get from ninjatrader themselves?
 
Hrrrmmm because he doesnt sell it direct I assume only to resellers.
I just checked it out on a demo it seems it has automated trading why the heck do we need TS then :confused:
 
Well I still cant find a decent broker.
It wouldnt seem there is any. Tradestation has wasted a week of my time trying to open an account making me print the forms and fill them out with pen and having them picked up via fedex?
Only to tell me they want a copy of my passport?
Ive had about 12 accounts with brokers in the usa over 3 years and never needed a copy of a passport.Drivers licence credit card bank statement etc has always been enough to satisfy the patriot act.Ive never had to manually fill out the forms with pen and have them picked up?
Somethings not right with tradestation.
They clear through RJObrien of which I can open an account with drivers licence credit card bank statement etc and can scan and email the forms.
If there customer service is this poor simply opening an account then ive probably saved my money not trading with them.
 
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