OK, this is getting ridiculous.. how is EURUSD now over 1.42?? (4/1/11)

Quote from Raul641:

how is EURUSD now over 1.42??

You could probably get the mods to change the thread title to "how is EURUSD now over 1.44??" for you.
 
Quote from Lucrum:

You could probably get the mods to change the thread title to "how is EURUSD now over 1.44??" for you.

bragging in hindsight about one side might be a good sign for the other side.
 
Quote from tradingjournals:

EUR/USD at 1.4484. I think I am going short here on first entry.

What do you think are my chances?

45 minutes later, EUR/USD at 1.4450 and price did not go above 1.4484. :cool:
 
Maybe their policy response has been so well relayed (whatever it is) and channeled amongst hedgies that the carry is so good and the likelihood of default so muted that this thing has turned into a money printing machine for hedgies....

Plus if anyone actually has enough money to push up the Market (as I'm sure some group of stodgy Central Bankers do), it forces sovereign CDS owners out of their position cuz the underlying is moving around so much. Its like you beating up a guy and hes squeezing out from under you and he finally breaks lose....

Whomever gets those CDS positions at the end, probably gonna make alot of money.
 
Lots of good commentary. To rehash and introduce a few things:

How could one even say it "should be" at say 1.20. Would that not assume (maybe wrongly) that prior valuation was absolutely correct? I mean, if current values are so "incredulous", how could we ever truly think they were accurate in the first place (and if so...for how long)?

And a poster was right in that, how could knowing it should be at say 1.20 even help you? It's at 1.4x. It could go to 1.60 before correcting. It could take 5-10 years before correcting "appropriately". And who is to say that in whatever time it takes to react appropriately that something else doesn't happen and completely change that original opinion (and possibly very harshly). That sort of thinking (that xyz should be at xx) is why so many lose money.

Also, what is your time frame? What's your average holding time. If it's days (or less), you need not even ask such questions). If it's weeks/months/years, you've probably had this sort of question every...well...every few weeks.

You always need to be aware of the long-term picture, but you need to trade the short-term.
 
It's a pattern in trading, particularly inexperienced traders. most people don't believe that the least probable action in a strong trend is trend reversal when in fact that probability alone could make you money for the rest of your life provided the money management is sound.

Traders are so afraid of buying the top or shorting the bottom they cannot perform what needs to be done, like if stops or cutting a loser short was not possible. Too afraid to be wrong at the top or the bottom, ironically not afraid to fade very strong trends, which is exponentially inferior and much more dangerous.

Crazy A
 
Quote from tradingjournals:

bragging in hindsight about one side might be a good sign for the other side.
Maybe, what is crying about being on the wrong side a sign of?
 
Quote from Raul641:

- Portugal announces last year's budget deficit was much larger than they thought.

- They are expected to request a bailout at any time.

- Ireland says they will need another €24 billion to stabilize their banks

- Their debt insurance and yields are up

- "Late Wednesday, a plan to merge four troubled savings banks in Spain collapsed..." (http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/01/business/global/01geithner.html)

...... and yet... EURUSD is over 1.42 now.

I don't get it.

The only related item I could find on Bloomberg is a cryptic throwaway sentence in a general article about currencies: "The dollar weakened against the euro after New York Federal Reserve President William Dudley said not to be “overly optimistic about the growth outlook.”

This seems weak. Nobody was expecting stellar growth in the US. Growth prospects in the US may not be great, but on the other hand, 2 US states are not in bankruptcy with 2 or 3 others expected to follow at any moment. Not to mention that the French and German govts are still at each other's throats every day, as last week.

Also, they say IN THE SAME ARTICLE that Canadian and Mexican currencies are *UP* on strong growth prospects in the US. (http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-...-increase-u-s-strength-may-spur-fed-move.html)

So what's going on here....??

Market create the reasons. The reasons you gave would be priced in the future, if EUR/USD goes down.

I bet that if the sell off takes place they would gave reasons such as yours, and they would attribute it to a guy from a "major" firm.

Markets can create the fundamental, and not the other way around.
 
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